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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; As the bounty case continues to bounce back and forth between simmer and full boil, a strong undercurrent of discontent continues to linger among the ranks of the men who still play for the Saints organization. According to Mike Freeman ...

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Old 05-21-2012, 05:14 PM   #11
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As the bounty case continues to bounce back and forth between simmer and full boil, a strong undercurrent of discontent continues to linger among the ranks of the men who still play for the Saints organization.

According to Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com, multiple unnamed members of the team privately have complained about the situation.

Everyone in the bounty case is being railroaded, one unnamed Saints player told Freeman. I cant believe this is happening.

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Old 05-21-2012, 05:25 PM   #12
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Time difference between 09 playoffs and 2012

I cannot wrap my head around this single fact:

If the NFL knew about Vilma offering 10k to "knock out" Kurt Warner and Favre, why would they wait 2.5 years to punish Vilma??

It DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!!
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Commish overstepped this time. He must have a concussion.
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Old 05-21-2012, 05:55 PM   #14
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I cannot wrap my head around this single fact:

If the NFL knew about Vilma offering 10k to "knock out" Kurt Warner and Favre, why would they wait 2.5 years to punish Vilma??

It DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER!!!!!
the Director of the Vermont School of Law, Michael McCann, spoke specifically about this. If the NFL had critical information early on and allowed it to continue they are going to get waylaid with more lawsuits.

McCann however is leaning towards Goodell being able to avoid Vilma's suit but that depends on how things are interpreted in the CBA as for what Vilma can and can't do. Right now it's a gray area. It really could go either way.
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McCann however is leaning towards Goodell being able to avoid Vilma's suit but that depends on how things are interpreted in the CBA as for what Vilma can and can't do. Right now it's a gray area. It really could go either way.
Agreed, but this is where I completely disagree with McCann. The Case specifically names Vilma vs. Goodell, in a personal liability lawsuit.

The case gives the court personal jurisdiction over Goodell. The case names Goodell as an individual person, it does not mention the NFL, therefore the CBA is not in play.

For the NFL to enter the case, Goodell must prove he made decisions based on what his employer (the NFL) instructed him to do... but Goodell IS THE AUTHORITY for the NFL, therefore he IS personally responsible.
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The "young punk" got it! The rest of you old timers should be very ashamed.
Oh, I got it. I was back stage in 1977 at one of their Grand Illusion tour stops in Greenville, NC. They were fronted by Charlie. We partied with the Charlie gang after the concert.
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I'm with you Halo, that's why it's going to be interesting to see how RG responds. We are going to get a clearer picture of how the NFL hierarchy works in these matters. Does RG call the shots and everyone else is just yes men, or, does he present it to a board. How much power does he actually have. I know he has a lot but what is the role of the owners in all this is what I'd like to know. I'm sure the owners are not just turning on ESPN and saying there's our boy.
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Some one is getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar..........
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