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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; This information is from the NFL Draft Exchange and was the evaluation of our picks this year, prior to their selection. (I pulled our picks from it, and put them here - thus no link, but you can find this ...

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Old 04-26-2004, 07:06 AM   #1
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This information is from the NFL Draft Exchange and was the evaluation of our picks this year, prior to their selection. (I pulled our picks from it, and put them here - thus no link, but you can find this site at www.nflfans.com) After doing all this research, I am simply amazed at how highly these guys were rated (by some) after their selection. I guess once a player is picked, his talent level suddenly increases and all of his flaws disappear.

Will Smith
Position: DE
College:Ohio State
Projected Selection:Top20
MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT 6'3"
WEIGHT 268
40 TIME 4.60
ATTRIBUTE SCORE
SIZE 7 out of 10
SPEED 8 out of 10
STRENGTH 10 out of 10
ATHLETICISM 9 out of 10
XFACTOR 7 out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE 90.0
Pros: Will has good experience with good size, instincts, athleticism, & work ethics. He is a dominating pass rusher with a variety of moves, good agility, hands, change of direction, quick out of stance, & good coverage skills in drop back.
Cons: Very few faults are noted and all correctable. He needs some additional strength & bulk to assist in run support, better positioning, improve reads, and play a little more consistent. Has the ability to address these weaknesses.

Draft Exchange Analysis:
Pro Day Update :
HEIGHT:6.02.6
WEIGHT:268
225# REPS:30
40 AVERAGE:4.60
3 CONE:7.43
VERTICLE:38.5
LONG JUMP:9'9"
Smith had a tremendous workout and is considered one of the "hot" pro-day workout players in the league. He helped himself a lot in this workout.The workouts for Ohio were held on a FAST indoor track and this should be considered when loking at the times coming out of this workout.
COMBINE UPDATE:
HEIGHT:6.02.8
WEIGHT:276
225# REPS: DNL
40 AVERAGE: DNR
I really see no reason Will can not succeed at a high level in the NFL starting his rookie year. He has tremendous athleticism, work ethics, and physical skills to achieve stardom. After a very successful career in a big school program against top notch competition and big game experience, I feel Smith will make the transition to the NFL as easy as any DE prospect coming out in 2004.

Devery Henderson
Position:WR
College:LSU
Projected Selection:Round2
MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT 5'11"
WEIGHT 199
40 TIME 4.37
ATTRIBUTE SCORE
SIZE 7 out of 10
SPEED 10 out of 10
STRENGTH 7 out of 10
ATHLETICISM 8 out of 10
XFACTOR 6 out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE 70.0
Pros: True burner speed, very fluid movement, elusive after the catch. Quite powerful as wideouts go.
Cons: Still learning the finer points of playing WR, particularly route running. Has had some injury problems.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
Pro Day Update :
HEIGHT:5.11.3
WEIGHT:196
40 AVERAGE:4.37
SHORT SHUTTLE:4.26
LONG SHUTTLE:11.35 3
CONE:6.77
VERTICLE:35.5
LONG JUMP:10'3"
COMBINE UPDATE:
HEIGHT:5.11.2
WEIGHT:199
40 AVERAGE: DNR
Another "#2" receiver playing opposite a better-known #1, Henderson will benefit from LSU's run this year as much as Clayton will. A converted running back, Henderson made the move to wideout as a junior, and immediately paid dividends, catching 8 TDs in his first eight games before breaking his arm and missing the final games of the year. His biggest impact though was in the "Bluegrass Miracle" when he latched onto a 75 yard Hail-Mary as time-expired to defeat Kentucky.
It's hard to ignore how quickly he's taken to his conversion and that should impress NFL scouts. Henderson's draft position is a bit unclear - it's all really about which team is interested in him. He isn't a finished article, but at the rate he's learned, he may actually have better potential than his LSU predecessor Josh Reed (who he's often compared to). His speed means that he'll be particularly impressive at the combine where he should post among the best 40 times of the day, and if he can show continued post-season progression in his receiving skills, a team might be inclined to take a shot at him as early as the 3rd round.

Courtney Watson
Position:MLB
College:Notre Dame
Projected Selection:Round4
MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT 6'2"
WEIGHT 237
40 TIME 4.54
ATTRIBUTE SCORE
SIZE 8 out of 10
SPEED 7 out of 10
STRENGTH 8 out of 10
ATHLETICISM 9 out of 10
XFACTOR 8 out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE 54.0
Pros: A well coached athletic LB with good attitude and technique, he has good speed and quickness, great upper body strength, cuts good, and has a great work ethic that gives him plenty of upside for scouts to look at.
Cons: He presently can be over powered and must bulk up to compete with the big boys. Struggles at POA because of this. Does not wrap up on tackles, needs to be more aggressive in his tackles. Needs to improve consistency.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
UPDATE - PRO DAY:
Only did position drills at his pro day, no additional measurables.
COMBINE UPDATE:
HEIGHT:6.01.5
WEIGHT:237
225# REPS:22
40 AVERAGE:4.54
A great athlete who was also a prep basketball star, he has the ability to overcome most of his shortcomings with a good strength and nutritional coach.

Mike Karney
Position:FB
College:Arizona St.
Projected Selection:Round4
MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT 5'11"
WEIGHT 254
40 TIME 4.97
ATTRIBUTE SCORE
SIZE 7 out of 10
SPEED 5 out of 10
STRENGTH 9 out of 10
ATHLETICISM 6 out of 10
XFACTOR 6 out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE 49.5
Pros: Excels as a blocker and takes the hit to get the extra yardage. Has decent hands and has shown the ability to catch the ball out of the backfield...A very hard worker and all around tough guy.
Cons: Not much of a runner and wasn't given the opportunity to showcase those skills much in college.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
COMBINE UPDATE:
HEIGHT:5.11.3
WEIGHT:254
225# REPS:25
40 AVERAGE:4.97 (ONLY RAN 1 40)
Mike Karney currently appears to be one of the best fullbacks available in the 2004 NFL Draft. Karney was an instant success at Arizona State, seeing playing time during his true freshman season. Since that time Karney has been Arizona State’s starting fullback and has established himself as one of the best lead blockers in the country.
Karney has a big body and ideal size for a fullback. He always seems to be going forward, and he generally wins if he gets his hands on the defender. He also has good hands and has been a solid special team’s player in the past. However, he is not overly nimble and can struggle when trying to block on the move. And his 40-yard dash time and overall athleticism will not strike fear into opposing defenses. But overall, Karney is a fine fullback prospect and may be the best lead blocker of all the fullbacks available in the 2004 NFL Draft.
Karney should be one of the first fullbacks selected in the upcoming draft, and could be picked as early as round three.

Rodney Leisle
Position: DT
College:UCLA
Projected Selection:Round3
MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT 6'3"
WEIGHT 309
40 TIME 5.22
ATTRIBUTE SCORE
SIZE 8 out of 10
SPEED 5 out of 10
STRENGTH 10 out of 10
ATHLETICISM 8 out of 10
XFACTOR 8 out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE 62.5
Pros: He has great power and strength, exceptional run blocker, requires double teams, will collapse the pocket, plays nasty with a great motor and intensity. Is an outstanding prospect with great potential
Cons: Sometimes will over pursue because he is too aggressive, needs to add additional bulk & mass, improve on pass rush techniques, and has a minor injury history which may cause some concern.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
Pro Day Update :
HEIGHT:6.03.3
WEIGHT:300
225# REPS:31
40 AVERAGE:5.22
SHORT SHUTTLE:4.68 3
CONE:7.94
VERTICLE:28.0
LONG JUMP:8'5"
COMBINE UPDATE:
HEIGHT:6.03.2
WEIGHT:309
225# REPS:31
40 AVERAGE: DNR
Rodney is exceptionally powerful and strong and has all the tools to be a very good starter in the NFL. He uses his hands good to gain separation. Has excellent leverage and plays with low pads, is quick physical, aggressive, athletic, and has an excellent attitude and work ethics. I have no doubt he will be a first day selection.
His durability question comes from a broken foot in 2002 which now seems to be completely healed and should not cause too much concern upon examination.

Colby Bockwoldt
Position:OLB
College:BYU
Projected Selection:Round4
MEASUREMENTS
HEIGHT 6'2"
WEIGHT 230
40 TIME 4.55
ATTRIBUTE SCORE
SIZE 8 out of 10
SPEED 7 out of 10
STRENGTH 7 out of 10
ATHLETICISM 8 out of 10
XFACTOR 8 out of 10
EXCHANGE VALUE 53.0
Pros: Colby has good size and athleticism combined with excellent speed and quickness to make big plays all over the field. He has great range, sideline to sideline, and is an excellent blitzer. Great looking prospect with upside.
Cons: Could still use an additional 10 to 15 pounds of muscle added to help at next level. Needs to refine coverage skills and learn to use hands better in shedding blockers. Needs to improve consistency.
Draft Exchange Analysis:
COMBINE UPDATE:
HEIGHT:6.01.5
WEIGHT:230
225# REPS:14
40 AVERAGE:4.55
An excellent looking prospect that could surprise many by going higher than expected in the draft. Most of his experience has been in the WILL position. Unless he can bulk up a little to add the power needed, he may not be able to make the switch to MIKE or SAM if needed, thus limiting his versatility.
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