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saintsfan1976 05-29-2012 08:52 PM

Fan sets up Drew Brees fund
 
How many of us have talked about this already...

New Orleans Saints fan sets up Drew Brees trust account - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

Seer1 05-29-2012 09:40 PM

Damn, wish I'd have come up with this first! Contribute Forrests, contribute!

bobdog86 05-29-2012 09:57 PM

I heard Condon already called that lawyer to inform him that unless the trust fund reaches 23 million, they were not interested. And rumor is... Brees was reportedly seen outside the lawyers office earlier today trying to collect his $500.00 before anyone could see him. kidding of course, but wouldn't surprise me.

The Dude 05-29-2012 10:24 PM

People on the other board want Drew to walk and to see what Chase Daniel can do. They all have their pitchforks out and are calling for Brees head.

Crusader 05-30-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 408764)
People on the other board want Drew to walk and to see what Chase Daniel can do. They all have their pitchforks out and are calling for Brees head.

So do I, not so much because I want Brees gone but because I HATE this mindless GREED.

pherein 05-30-2012 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 408789)
So do I, not so much because I want Brees gone but because I HATE this mindless GREED.

The greed is not Brees, its our culture. You just as greedy. Its an american thing..more more more. And it really never stops until you destroy the very thing you loved.

saintsfan1976 05-30-2012 05:29 AM

Kinda like Tommy Boy with his sale.

Crusader 05-30-2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 408792)
The greed is not Brees, its our culture. You just as greedy. Its an american thing..more more more. And it really never stops until you destroy the very thing you loved.

That i know, the only way to change such a culture is for strong individuals to say enough is enough and then do something else than chase wealth just for wealths sake.

saintsfan1976 05-30-2012 05:36 AM

I'm still holding out hope for Drew to make that move.

TheOak 05-30-2012 06:20 AM

Circumvention of Cap?

QBREES9 05-30-2012 07:24 AM

Like I said next man up.

Srgt. Hulka 05-30-2012 07:24 AM

No way I'm donating my hard earned money to a multi-milloinaire, who has been offered multi-millions and has turned it down because he wants more multi-millions.

Supertek 05-30-2012 09:06 AM

Look we are all poor compared to these standards. I just think this it is about money structure and long term security. It may be about greed but why should not Brees get the same respect and security of say a Michael Vick whom I Ihate? So who is really at fault here? May be noone at fault just a hard deal to make. They used the horse to run the race and could have fixed this before now. My opinion is they should not have made him play out his contract and got this done before it came to thia.

NuNu318 05-30-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Supertek (Post 408865)
Look we are all poor compared to these standards. I just think this it is about money structure and long term security. It may be about greed but why should not Brees get the same respect and security of say a Michael Vick whom I Ihate? So who is really at fault here? May be noone at fault just a hard deal to make. They used the horse to run the race and could have fixed this before now. My opinion is they should not have made him play out his contract and got this done before it came to thia.

They DID try and get this done before last season....he turned the offer down. When they were trying to continue to negotiate during the 2011-2012 season....he had the negotions stopped until the offseason....so its not ALL on the Saints FO, Brees/Condon are share the blame for the hold up as well......

saintfan 05-30-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 408831)
No way I'm donating my hard earned money to a multi-milloinaire, who has been offered multi-millions and has turned it down because he wants more multi-millions.

I'm with you man. As I've said, I support Drew's right to hold out for every last penny he can get. If anybody has earned it, he has. But seriously? A Donation? A "fund"? Dude has made more money than the combined posters on this board will make in a lifetime, and he's done that in less than 10 years.

I support his right to hold out up to the deadline. If he hasn't signed something by then, well, then you guys can color me a hater.

Halo 05-30-2012 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NuNu318 (Post 408873)
They DID try and get this done before last season....he turned the offer down. When they were trying to continue to negotiate during the 2011-2012 season....he had the negotiations stopped until the offseason....so its not ALL on the Saints FO, Brees/Condon are share the blame for the hold up as well......

And the answer is ^^

BING!!!
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9S7Ai8S-h7...ve+a+winer.jpg

Brees should be extremely frustrated with HIS AGENT...
AND FOR GOING WITH AN AGENT WHO IS BANNED FROM OTHER NFL OFFICES BECAUSE OF BS LIKE THIS!!!

Mardigras9 05-30-2012 11:39 AM

I like the trust, even if it is just to prove a point. It's funny actually, and knowing it will all be donated to his charity anyway.

TheOak 05-30-2012 12:35 PM

I still say from a business prospective it was a prudent decision.

Brees/Condon KNEW that manning and or Brady would be signing very large contracts. They also knew that Brees out preformed both of them.

Choices:
Sign a 18m/year contract in 2011 to be the highest paid QB THAT SEASON

or

Wait till now and sign a 21m/year contract and be the highest paid QB for at least a few years.

There was absolutely ZERO reason he should have signed early.

As a fan I wish he would have signed and this would all not be happening. If he called me and asked for my advice on the best business decision, I would have said sit on it and wait.

saintfan 05-30-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 408916)
I still say from a business prospective it was a prudent decision.

Brees/Condon KNEW that manning and or Brady would be signing very large contracts. They also knew that Brees out preformed both of them.

Choices:
Sign a 18m/year contract in 2011 to be the highest paid QB THAT SEASON

or

Wait till now and sign a 21m/year contract and be the highest paid QB for at least a few years.

There was absolutely ZERO reason he should have signed early.

As a fan I wish he would have signed and this would all not be happening. If he called me and asked for my advice on the best business decision, I would have said sit on it and wait.

I don't disagree at all. Still, the Saints offers, based on what we know, were plenty fair, even though he turned them down. I'm only angry if he refuses to sign on what, July 16th or whatever the deadline is. Up 'til then he has every right to hold out. After that, if he hasn't signed, he sucks balls. :-)

Rugby Saint II 06-01-2012 02:04 PM

When Drew does sign a contract who is going to be the beneficiary from the fund?
I think it should go to the BNG.:smile:

The Dude 06-01-2012 02:49 PM

I think Brees sits out.

FinSaint 06-01-2012 05:45 PM

Once again it's not about a lack of funds by the ownership or them not wanting to pay Brees what he is worth - in the era of strict salary caps, a team can't just pay whatever a player thinks he deserves and keep all the other players happy while keeping the team competitive in all positions.

Therefore, something like this fund is in itself useless. However, it might send a message to Brees' side and if the donations end up going to a charity then it'll be a good cause to donate to anyway.

I'm just frustrated with all the ignorant "pay the man" comments that are out there, because it is not that simple, if it was, Brees would've been signed a long time ago.

FinSaint 06-01-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 409427)
I think Brees sits out.



I do hope you are wrong about that, but if he does, he is a complete tool in my book and he loses 90% of the respect I have for him.

It can't be 100% because in the end he played a big part in getting Saints their first Lombardi Trophy, and that is something that can't be taken away no matter what he does from now on out.

dsrdsrdsr 06-04-2012 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertek (Post 408865)
Look we are all poor compared to these standards. I just think this it is about money structure and long term security. It may be about greed but why should not Brees get the same respect and security of say a Michael Vick whom I Ihate? So who is really at fault here? May be noone at fault just a hard deal to make. They used the horse to run the race and could have fixed this before now. My opinion is they should not have made him play out his contract and got this done before it came to thia.

It may be about "respect", but it certainly isn't about security. Someone who isn't secure on £21m per year won't be secure on £23m either.

Beastmode 06-04-2012 07:42 PM

The reasoning on how it could work out for him if he sits does make sense, especially if he went to a city with more marketing potential...that's more endorsements, more money for his foundation (of which 80% he takes in is his), and of course a larger paycheck. I hate to say it, but financially it really could work out much better for him long term.

FinSaint 06-05-2012 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dsrdsrdsr (Post 409959)
It may be about "respect", but it certainly isn't about security. Someone who isn't secure on £21m per year won't be secure on £23m either.


I do hope you're wrong about those numbers, since £21m to £23m would be $32M to $35M. ;-)

UK_WhoDat 06-05-2012 03:37 AM

Well that trust fund is gonna need 1/2 of America donating to reach Condon levels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 408792)
The greed is not Brees, its our culture. You just as greedy. Its an american thing..more more more. And it really never stops until you destroy the very thing you loved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 408808)
That i know, the only way to change such a culture is for strong individuals to say enough is enough and then do something else than chase wealth just for wealths sake.

Wll I ain't chasing money. The one big thing that I value is my health. With that I continue forwards trying to be as content as I can be. So yeah, I do have greed. Greed for health and contentment.

pherein 06-06-2012 12:01 AM

$2,455.36 so far, lol

I think this fund is luck if it gets to $50,000. Just enough to cover Brees's car tax :P

pherein 06-06-2012 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat (Post 410006)
Well that trust fund is gonna need 1/2 of America donating to reach Condon levels.

Wll I ain't chasing money. The one big thing that I value is my health. With that I continue forwards trying to be as content as I can be. So yeah, I do have greed. Greed for health and contentment.

Im the same, but I love the money I make. Ive noticed thou even thou Im payed very well, my expenses keep going up. 20 years ago I wouldn't even know what to do with the money I make. Now, Id like a little more,lol.
Its kind of an endless cycle.
You get used to the motorcycles,big TV's, Direct TV, super high internet, high priced coffee, top appliances, vacations. Next thing you know your barely scratching by, and more green paper :)
Greed sneaks up on you I think.

Saint_LB 06-06-2012 07:53 AM

Most people know already that I have not been the biggest Brees fan and that was before all this came up. It's hard for me to keep sitting back and waiting...but there is an "I told you so" stuck inside me and just dying to get out. I am being patient and waiting this thing out...which is all we can do.

Here's my confusion...If Drew is that great...then why is he here? I know...he was injured...but let's play make believe. Let's make believe that he never played in SD and he came here first and had the success that he's had since he has been here...and then got the injury. Would we let him walk?

So, is it that Drew is that good, or Payton's schemes are that good, or San Diego's organization is that bad...or does the truth lie somewhere in the middle of all that?

We got a Lombardi, so I can take another 40+ years for another if I have to. I don't want to, but I'd rather they let him walk than to let him hold us hostage. I firmly believe that there is someone out there who can replace him if need be and within a few years people could be saying, "Drew who?" He wouldn't be the 1st Drew to experience this if it did indeed happen!

FinSaint 06-06-2012 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 410268)
We got a Lombardi, so I can take another 40+ years for another if I have to. I don't want to, but I'd rather they let him walk than to let him hold us hostage. I firmly believe that there is someone out there who can replace him if need be and within a few years people could be saying, "Drew who?" He wouldn't be the 1st Drew to experience this if it did indeed happen!


But Bledsoe wasn't really an equal caliber QB, so while I do agree with your overall sentiment, I do think that replacing Brees with equal or at least close to similar talent would be extremely difficult.

Saint_LB 06-06-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 410286)
But Bledsoe wasn't really an equal caliber QB, so while I do agree with your overall sentiment, I do think that replacing Brees with equal or at least close to similar talent would be extremely difficult.

The only part that we may disagree a little on is the "extremely" part. That, again, is where I am just not sure. Is Payton's system that good, or is Drew that good. Probably both, but I am only saying that due to the circumstances I would be willing to find out.

FinSaint 06-06-2012 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 410288)
The only part that we may disagree a little on is the "extremely" part. That, again, is where I am just not sure. Is Payton's system that good, or is Drew that good. Probably both, but I am only saying that due to the circumstances I would be willing to find out.


I think that Brees' very high throwing accuracy is one of the things that makes him such a great QB in SP's offense, because a lot of the things SP does depend on pin point accuracy and timing.

But, like you said, I do think that both of them make each other look good - and following up on that, I do think that both would not have had the same level of success during these past years if they hadn't come together.

That being said, both of them could succeed apart from each other, but it would be hard for Brees to find a similar offense to the one the Saints have, which would put him in the best place to succeed, because he needs to be a "pocket passer" in order to be as effective as possible. And I do think that SP could more easily modify his offensive schemes to fit another type of a QB, so he'd probably succeed more easily without Brees as the Saints' QB than vice versa.


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