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Old 06-01-2012, 09:27 PM   #11
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oH, YOU MEAN THE ONE WITH - hit 'em low and hit 'em hard!

I remember my coach at Joe Brown Park in New Orleans told me to do the same thing - "hit 'em low and hit 'em hard!"

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Old 06-01-2012, 10:04 PM   #12
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What was all that.
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:04 PM   #13
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So.......how is it that Jason Cole from Yahoo Sports has seen this phantom ledger, but the NFLPA has not. Wouldn't this be in violation of the CBA? Also.....if this Jason Cole was presented said evidence so quickly, why does Goodell need an extension before presenting it to the U.S. District Court where he is being sued??? Hmmmmmmmm.........
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Old 06-01-2012, 10:24 PM   #14
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A ledger is a very unstable source of information. It can be doctored or created out of thin air to create any circumstances you want to present. I know it's just a movie, but in A Few Good Men that's exactly what Col Jesub did when he had the flight logs adjusted.

If they did It I accept it but RG has nothing concrete. Now he throws this ledger out after he already stated on ESPN he presented everything he had! What this says to me is he is in fact a liar and any evidence he submits from this point on is suspect.
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I'm going with completely fabricated.
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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 View Post
So.......how is it that Jason Cole from Yahoo Sports has seen this phantom ledger, but the NFLPA has not. Wouldn't this be in violation of the CBA? Also.....if this Jason Cole was presented said evidence so quickly, why does Goodell need an extension before presenting it to the U.S. District Court where he is being sued??? Hmmmmmmmm.........
Remember, Goodell is just "Answering" the charges (interrogatories) filed against him. Goodell may present objections and answers to each interrogatory. The defendant usually has 30 days to answer but a court, on motion and notice and for good cause shown, may enlarge or shorten the time.

In his answer he can specify evidence but that evidence will not be worked over until the discovery process begins in full. The court is trying to ascertain whether the plaintiff (Vilma) has a case to proceed, and that the case stands on its own merits to come before the court.
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Remember, Goodell is just "Answering" the charges (interrogatories) filed against him. Goodell may present objections and answers to each interrogatory. The defendant usually has 30 days to answer but a court, on motion and notice and for good cause shown, may enlarge or shorten the time.

In his answer he can specify evidence but that evidence will not be worked over until the discovery process begins in full. The court is trying to ascertain whether the plaintiff (Vilma) has a case to proceed, and that the case stands on its own merits to come before the court.
Why then, has he not shared such evidence with the player's union......as they have already requested such evidence??? Doesn't make sense, since it was so freely given to Mr. cole.
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Methinks Goodell is getting this guy>>>>



to gather "additional" evidence ... it reminds us of that movie "Trading Places" with Eddie Murphy



...where they were scamming for orange futures... except this time it is even more auspicious.

Funny how history repeats itself, kinda!
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:51 PM   #19
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So why "release" the information deemed so critical to one NFL mouthpiece and not simply make it public record? Why not show it to the NFLPA or any of the accused?

If you're in the morally and factually superior position, there is little downside to settling issues of those facts. These games suggest there is much to dispute.

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Why then, has he not shared such evidence with the player's union......as they have already requested such evidence??? Doesn't make sense, since it was so freely given to Mr. cole.
Separate from this case, that's a very good question and exactly what I was trying to say earlier.

If you ask me, I think Goodell is looking more and more filthy everyday AND I PLAN TO CONTINUE TO CALL HIM OUT DAILY!!!
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