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The Dude 06-11-2012 11:54 PM

Anyone think Drew may want out?
 
Does anyone think that Drew may want out to remove himself from being associated with the bounty stuff? Maybe not signing and asking for a ridiculous amount of money so the organization can't pay him is leverage for him if he asks for a trade?

Halo 06-12-2012 12:00 AM

no

The Dude 06-12-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 411383)
no

Why

gandhi1007 06-12-2012 12:09 AM

Doesn't make sense. Drew has too much invested in the New Orleans area.

The Dude 06-12-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 411385)
Doesn't make sense. Drew has too much invested in the New Orleans area.

Like what? A Jimmy Johns? Places like that run themselves. Any investment he has here he can run from anywhere else. He has an emotional investment yes, but maybe the bounty thing disgusted him.

Halo 06-12-2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 411384)
Why

Because he's under franchise tag with the Saints and must play in New Orleans this season, whether he signed it or not, otherwise he sits out the season. There are no exceptions to this rule.

Like it or not he played on the Saints team during the alleged bounty incidents and switching teams won't help.

If he does want out he'll have to sit out this season and not play. This will be MEGA costly in millions of dollars he will not recoup during the remainder of his career.

Finally, as of last week Drew sold his home in San Diego, established another business in New Orleans and went before the City Council to ask for a zone variance, and is in active negotiations with the Saints front office which sent him another offer-sheet this past Friday.

These are not the actions of someone wanting to distance themselves with an organization, rather affirming hints he's probably staying for good.

Because of these evidential reasons, I firmly do not believe Drew wants to leave the New Orleans Saints for any reason, speculative or not.

The Dude 06-12-2012 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 411388)
Because he's under franchise tag with the Saints and must play in New Orleans this season, whether he signed it or not, otherwise he sits out the season. There are no exceptions to this rule.

Like it or not he played on the Saints team during the alleged bounty incidents and switching teams won't help.

If he does want out he'll have to sit out this season and not play. This will be MEGA costly in millions of dollars he will not recoup during the remainder of his career.

Finally, as of last week Drew sold his home in San Diego, established another business in New Orleans and went before the City Council to ask for a zone variance, and is in active negotiations with the Saints front office which sent him another offer-sheet this past Friday.

These are not the actions of someone wanting to distance themselves with an organization, rather affirming hints he's probably staying for good.

Because of these evidential reasons, I firmly do not believe Drew wants to leave the New Orleans Saints for any reason, speculative or not.

It wasn't his only home is was his second home. His real home is still right there in San Diego. Jimmy Johns can run itself and be taken care of anywhere in the country. He could sit out and get a trade next year. If he doesn't want to risk injury playing under the tag he might sit out anyway. Sitting out is a better investment in the long run than playing and risking the possibility of getting injured and never getting a check ever again. Just for arguments sake Im not saying I think this will happen.

Halo 06-12-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 411389)
It wasn't his only home is was his second home. His real home is still right there in San Diego. Jimmy Johns can run itself and be taken care of anywhere in the country. He could sit out and get a trade next year. If he doesn't want to risk injury playing under the tag he might sit out anyway. Sitting out is a better investment in the long run than playing and risking the possibility of getting injured and never getting a check ever again. Just for arguments sake Im not saying I think this will happen.

Then why the small publicity stunts in New Orleans? Why not send a business representative to the City Council and ask for a zone variance for a new business venture in New Orleans?

Look, if Drew wanted out of New Orleans, all he has to do is go meet with Mr. Benson and Mickey Loomis and tell them he wants out.

The Saints would have Brees sign a 1 year extension contract which puts an end to the franchise tag issue.

Then New Orleans front office would put Brees out on the trading block. New Orleans would be compensated by another NFL team with a buyout of Brees' contract, multiple first round picks, and more secondary draft picks, and Drew will go to the highest bidder and get his new contract ASAP.

Why try to "back out" of New Orleans, lose a years salary, sit on his butt for a season, drop in value, and screw the Saints organization because they would get nothing in compensation for him (which costs Brees nothing by the way.)

It makes no business sense whatsoever.

And believe me, that Jimmy Johns would not do well if Brees did that, just sayin. His name is attached to it. If he left on good terms, yes it would run itself, but if he "backed out" of New Orleans, patrons would "back out" from going to his Jimmy Johns.

The Dude 06-12-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 411392)
Then why the small publicity stunts in New Orleans? Why not send a business representative to the City Council and ask for a zone variance for a new business venture in New Orleans?

Look, if Drew wanted out of New Orleans, all he has to do is go meet with Mr. Benson and Mickey Loomis and tell them he wants out.

The Saints would have Brees sign a 1 year extension contract which puts an end to the franchise tag issue.

Then New Orleans front office would put Brees out on the trading block. New Orleans would be compensated by another NFL team with a buyout of Brees' contract, multiple first round picks, and more secondary draft picks, and Drew will go to the highest bidder and get his new contract ASAP.

Why try to "back out" of New Orleans, lose a years salary, sit on his butt for a season, drop in value, and screw the Saints organization because they would get nothing in compensation for him (which costs Brees nothing by the way.)

It makes no business sense whatsoever.

And believe me, that Jimmy Johns would not do well if Brees did that, just sayin. His name is attached to it. If he left on good terms, yes it would run itself, but if he "backed out" of New Orleans patrons would back out from going to his Jimmy Johns.

Good points except for on Jimmy Johns. Jimmy Johns is not going to generate enough revenue to make any difference to Brees whatsoever. He didn't do that for the purpose of making money. He likes Jimmy Johns and wanted to bring it here to New Orleans. The most he would make owning a Jimmy Johns is probably around 150-350k a year which is chump change to him. If that much. I know a thing or two about the restaurant business. If he owned multiple that would be a different story. On a side note I wish he would have opened an In-And-Out Burger instead.

QBREES9 06-12-2012 12:50 AM

NO.

Supertek 06-12-2012 07:54 AM

Hard to believe he wants out of here. Sure he wants to get the best contract he can get. He never had a chance to really negotiate his whole career. Just would like to see something creative in his contract that would be the tipping point. I have stuck up for him this whole time. Now I also think he has to have some obligation to the fans he and not let money or plain greed be what keeps him away if they are close moneywise.

mikesaintfan 06-12-2012 07:54 AM

where would he go to have a better chance at another ring?...what team is an elite QB away from a SB?...doesnt make sense for him to leave

Seer1 06-12-2012 09:12 AM

Where's the Don't Like Button?

Drew is brought to the one team, the one coach who really wants him. He's given a really nice contract in spite of the massive shoulder reconstruction he recently underwent. He then finds out his coach is his brother from a different mother and they get close enough so if one drinks too much, the other needs to urinate. Now let's talk about the town he chooses to buy a home in. A town pretty much shattered yet he still brings his family there. Both he and his wife put their hearts into doing what they can to help rebuild it. No buddy, he doesn't want out. He wants to retire as a Saint. Playing on the west coast is just a bad dream. He's only going for what's due to him in the unreal economy of professional football. It's a stupid ridiculous amount of money, but when you have a legitimate chance of going down as the best of all time, why shouldn't your paycheck reflect that?

Mardigras9 06-12-2012 09:16 AM

No way, he has built this offense. It is designed for him and his style of QB. He has the best chance for success here, especially at this point in his career. He is unstoppable in the DOME.

arsaint 06-12-2012 09:17 AM

I don't want to see the Saints blow up the future to get this done, but c'mon!

Drew has already played out a 6 yr 60 million deal. Does anyone think he was only worth $10 million a year (compared with what other elites are being paid) over the past 6 years? Or at least over the past 3?

I would say that he was grossly underpaid the past 3 years.

Dude could have easily demanded a new deal after the Superbowl and didn't.

I think he's trying to do what is best for his family based on his skill level. I also think he wants nothing more than to retire as a Saint. The fact that he hasn't wanted more $$$ before now proves that to me...

Tobias-Reiper 06-12-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 411424)
where would he go to have a better chance at another ring?...what team is an elite QB away from a SB?...doesnt make sense for him to leave

Jerry Jones will drop Tony Romo faster than a soiled diaper to have a local boy with Brees' credentials play QB for the Cowboys.

Arizona will drop Kolb as quick for Brees.

Ditto San Fransisco with Smith.

The Vikings still have a good D but no QB, and they did pretty well when they had the old man.

That's 4 "good SB chances if Brees QBs + payday" teams off the top of my head. Then you have the "payday only " teams, and that's a long list.

Mardigras9 06-12-2012 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 411444)
Jerry Jones will drop Tony Romo faster than a soiled diaper to have a local boy with Brees' credentials play QB for the Cowboys.

Arizona will drop Kolb as quick for Brees.

Ditto San Fransisco with Smith.

The Vikings still have a good D but no QB, and they did pretty well when they had the old man.

That's 4 "good SB chances if Brees QBs + payday" teams off the top of my head. Then you have the "payday only " teams, and that's a long list.

Dallas is the only scary option, and dropping Romo is certainly feasible. What a terrible thought that is.

TheOak 06-12-2012 10:28 AM

Drew wants to get paid. He realizes this is the last contract he will probably have for the rest of his career.

His has NO other options for the next two years other than to accept, negotiate a long term contract, or sit out (un-paid). There is nothing to "want out" of for two years. If he sits out this season, New Orleans can slap that tag on him again next year, and he can sit out again if he decides.

He does not have the option to go to another team or even negotiate with another team. He has an Exclusive Franchise tag.

An "exclusive" franchise player must be offered a one-year contract for an amount no less than the average of the top five salaries at the player's position as of a date in April of the current year in which the tag will apply, or 120 percent of the player's previous year's salary, whichever is greater. Exclusive franchise players cannot negotiate with other teams. The player's team has all the negotiating rights to the exclusive player.

saintfan 06-12-2012 10:53 AM

Drew doesn't want out. I don't know the man of course, but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would bail over what he and countless others with the Saints have called NFL and Media hyperbole over this so-called 'bounty' crap. No. If Drew wanted out he's say as much.

Drew wants to get as much as he can get, so he's playing the system to achieve that goal. Who among us would do differently?

Now, when training camp opens for real, he had better well have signed something or I'm going to stop liking him, and I know this will hurt him deeply. Until then he should do precisely what he's doing, which is leverage everything he can leverage to get as much as he can possibly get.

Just be there when the unlock they doors Drew. That's all I'm asking.

The Dude 06-12-2012 11:03 AM

Payton could be trying to sneak over to Dallas too. Him and Jerry are great friends and he has a home there. I could see him pulling a Willie Beeman and going to Dallas and taking Drew with him.

Rugby Saint II 06-12-2012 11:03 AM

He doesn't want out......he wants more money.

|Mitch| 06-12-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 411459)
Payton could be trying to sneak over to Dallas too. Him and Jerry are great friends and he has a home there. I could see him pulling a Willie Beeman and going to Dallas and taking Drew with him.

Payton is locked up until the 2015 season so that's out :roll:

TheOak 06-12-2012 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 411468)
Payton is locked up until the 2015 season so that's out :roll:


...and friends with Jerry or not... Friendship and Business do not always mix, and I will put a years salary that Sean Payton does not want Jerry in his business. Payton runs the show and that is not Jerry's style.

st thomas 06-12-2012 01:00 PM

i know this thread is for sake of a good smack but it gives me the heve gevees. pass on commenting on this. lol come home drew.

vpheughan 06-12-2012 06:44 PM

EPIC TAKE Romey!!! Here is a good "pot stirring" topic. Does the light really go out when you close the refrigerator door? or "Do you really need to breathe to stay alive? Stop it, Stop it, Stop it!!! I hate the offseason!! oh yeah, Astronaut Dick Gordon was the Saints president so it stands to reason the all of the moon landings were staged at the David Dr. facility!!!!

Danno 06-12-2012 06:46 PM

He doesn't want out, he just wants to milk the Saints for every dime he can possibly squeeze out of us.

spkb25 06-12-2012 07:32 PM

Absolutely not


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