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Building a championship team under the salary cap

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno Todays NFL is different. NFL rules have changed so much that the old addage "defense wins championships" is as outdated as the forearm shiver. True. The defensive side of the ball has become so castrated by ...

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Old 06-12-2012, 11:44 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Todays NFL is different. NFL rules have changed so much that the old addage "defense wins championships" is as outdated as the forearm shiver.
True. The defensive side of the ball has become so castrated by recent rules promoting scoring & protecting player safety, it's difficult for a strong defensive squad to intimidate & impose their will the way classic squads once did. Deacon Jones & Ronnie Lott would be fined off the field in today's NFL.

These updated rules have allowed the passing game to open up dramatically, evidenced by the video-game passing numbers QB's have been posting in the last few years. The wide-open passing game spreads out the defense, opening up running lanes & creating opportunities for bubble screens, etc.

Long story short, I voted "Dominant Offense."
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:44 AM   #12
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My first inclination was to go for great defense, ok offense because the Chicago team in Superbowl XX was staggering. Since then the likes of Pittsburgh Steelers have closed the opposition down. So it is easy tothink yeah baby defense, defense.

But then the Dome Patrol was unable to deliver. Mayve the offense was even ok? Speed forward 25 years and you have the Saints and the Packers. Clearly great offenses.

So I don't know. I am going for balance.
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:03 PM   #13
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Of the 6 worst offenses in the entire league .. Three of them Packers/Patriots/Giants with the Pac/Pat being the worst made the play offs and the Giants won the SB.

Giants/Packers/New England were in the bottom 10 for rushing. With the Giants being the worst.

The Patriots/Packers/Giants were all in the top 8 offenses for productivity with the Giants being in the top 3 for post season productivity.

Same three teams in the top 5 in passing.

QB's win Super Bowls... In the day and age of new rules. Well in this case Ill give Coughlin the credit since I just cant give it to the gourd.

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:25 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
2011 -

Of the 6 worst offenses in the entire league .. Three of them Packers/Patriots/Giants with the Pac/Pat being the worst made the play offs and the Giants won the SB.

Giants/Packers/New England were in the bottom 10 for rushing. With the Giants being the worst.

The Patriots/Packers/Giants were all in the top 8 offenses for productivity with the Giants being in the top 3 for post season productivity.

Same three teams in the top 5 in passing.

QB's win Super Bowls... In the day and age of new rules. Well in this case Ill give Coughlin the credit since I just cant give it to the gourd.
I think you meant defenses didn't you?
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Old 06-13-2012, 08:37 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
QB's win Super Bowls... In the day and age of new rules.
... and that's kind of it in a nutshell, you need a Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers (Matt Stafford) type QB in order to make that New England/New Orleans/Green Bay template work ... that's what makes it so fun to jab at the Falcons, they're trying to do it with Matty 'Ice', .
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Old 06-13-2012, 10:15 PM   #16
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I didn't read all the posts here, as a matter of fact, I didn't read any of the posts. It's late and I didn't feel like it. I just jumped to the end. I chose offense, because there ain't nothin purtier than watching Brees put up those 40, 50, and 60 burgers!
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Old 06-13-2012, 11:04 PM   #17
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I vote for what worked for us.
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Old 06-14-2012, 06:15 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
I think you meant defenses didn't you?
I will have to pay closer attention... I didn't realize my posts were actually read.
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
I will have to pay closer attention... I didn't realize my posts were actually read.
I'm an obsessive corrector.
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Originally Posted by foreverfan View Post
I vote for what worked for us.
I was gonna post a lengthy rationale for my vote.

CatMan summed it up perfectly for me.

If it aint broke? Don't fix it!
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