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WhoDat!656 06-18-2012 06:03 PM

Ginsberg chastises Goodell for distortion of evidence, demands reversal of suspension
 
The Commissioner of the National Football League rarely gets talked to in the way he got talked to today.

On Monday Goodell got an earful from lawyer Peter Ginsberg in the initial session of the bounty hearings.

As set forth below, Ginsberg accused Goodell of failing to conduct a fair process and distorting facts, calling the proceedings “shocking and shameful.” Multiple sources tell PFT that Ginsberg’s remarks were “heated,” and one source present at the session perceived that Goodell’s face turned red during Ginsberg’s rant.

Ginsberg chastises Goodell for distortion of evidence, demands reversal of suspension | ProFootballTalk

TheKillerBs 06-18-2012 07:17 PM

I like this Ginsberg guy!

Speedy Ron 06-18-2012 07:32 PM

And that is how you let someone have it

halloween 65 06-18-2012 07:32 PM

That would be the best thing that could happen! So what would that mean for Payton??

Belair57 06-18-2012 07:35 PM

doesnt matter, our offseason is still ruined, drew hasnt signed, the nfl is NOT going to change their mind about the suspensions...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

AsylumGuido 06-18-2012 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Belair57 (Post 413011)
doesnt matter, our offseason is still ruined, drew hasnt signed, the nfl is NOT going to change their mind about the suspensions...AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

And we will still win the Super Bowl.

CharityMike 06-18-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 413013)
And we will still win the Super Bowl.

AMEN!! :bng:

foreverfan 06-18-2012 08:44 PM

Sounds like the law suits are beginning to take their toll.

Beastmode 06-18-2012 09:42 PM

Very convicing argument especially this:

“Your office leaked to the press a couple weeks ago a supposed ledger which theoretically provided evidence of a bounty program,” Ginsberg said. “And when the media analyzed this supposed ledger, it became clear [apparently] even to the NFL office that since no players were identified in that supposed ledger, there was no tying of that ledger to any way to a bounty program. You have chosen after airing it out publicly not even to include that ledger in the documents you provided in an untimely fashion with regard to this proceeding.”

It's becoming more clear that there is no concrete evidence. Nothing that can prove without a doubt it existed and that's what a Judge is going to look at.

Halo 06-18-2012 09:45 PM

GOODELL SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED FOR TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS LIKE A DICTATORSHIP AND DARING TO RUN A HEARING LIKE A KANGAROO COURT IN FRONT OF A PLAYER AND A SEASONED ATTORNEY!

THIS MAY END UP BEING A QUAGMIRE FOR THE NFL AND CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS FOREVER.

ALSO, YOU CAN BOOK IT THE NFLPA WILL NEVER GIVE THE NFL THE POWER OF ARBITRATION IN DISPUTES AGAIN! IF THERE'S ANOTHER CBA, THE COMMISH WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HAND OUT SUSPENSIONS AND DISCIPLE EVER AGAIN.

saintfan 06-18-2012 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 413038)
GOODELL SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED FOR TRYING TO RUN A BUSINESS LIKE A DICTATORSHIP AND DARING TO RUN A HEARING LIKE A KANGAROO COURT IN FRONT OF A PLAYER AND A SEASONED ATTORNEY!

THIS MAY END UP BEING A QUAGMIRE FOR THE NFL AND CHANGE THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS FOREVER.

ALSO, YOU CAN BOOK IT THE NFLPA WILL NEVER GIVE THE NFL THE POWER OF ARBITRATION IN DISPUTES AGAIN! IF THERE'S ANOTHER CBA, THE COMMISH WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO HAND OUT SUSPENSIONS AND DISCIPLE EVER AGAIN.

You know I've been lobbying for the NFLPA to strike as a means to get Roger removed and change the process through which they fine and punish players. But I was thinking the same thing. I know they aren't going to strike (even though they should), but I'd be willing to bet whenever the next CBA is negotiated no single office (or person) will have unilateral control, because this whole thing has been an insane abuse of power.

QBREES9 06-18-2012 10:54 PM

Where do I get a Ginsberg jersey. Give them hell.

TheOak 06-19-2012 08:17 AM

Can pile of sh1t turn red?

Beastmode 06-19-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 413089)
Can pile of sh1t turn red?

I saw that too..Goodell they said turned red in the face. That is a clear sign of some form of narcissism. Who does that unless you know you are wrong and can't do anything about it or, you simply want to kill the person verbally attacking you. That is not normal. A rational person could filter out the attack by Ginsberg and remain calm knowing they would eventually get their turn to speak or defend themselves. A 5 year old getting scolding for something he knows he did wrong is what comes to mind.


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