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TheOak 07-03-2012 03:19 PM

Drew Brees wins franchise-tag grievance vs. NFL, Saints
 
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Drew Brees scored a win in his ongoing battle for a new contract Tuesday, when system arbitrator Stephen Burbank ruled in the New Orleans Saints quarterback's favor on a franchise-tag grievance filed by the NFL Players Association and heard last week in Philadelphia.

Brees argued that the next franchise tag he's assigned should count as his third since he was tagged in 2005 as a San Diego Charger and this offseason as a Saint. Language on the matter in the new collective bargaining agreement was vague, saying "any club" using the tag a third time on a player would have to tender that player at 144 percent of his previous year's salary, but not specifying if it had to be the same club tagging the player each time.

With this win, Brees' 2013 franchise tag would be set at 144 percent of his 2012 salary, rather than 120 percent. Brees' franchise tender is worth $16,371,000, meaning his 2013 tender would be set at $23,574,240, putting his two-year total at $39,945,240.

"We are very pleased that that the arbitrator agreed with the NFLPA that the correct interpretation of the 'third time' Franchise Player designation in the CBA applies across clubs, and a player's rights will not be unfairly hindered if different clubs designate him as a Franchise Player during his career," the NFLPA said in a release.

"The arbitrator properly rejected the NFL's strained interpretation of the CBA language, which ignored the fact that a Franchise Player designation is a narrow exception to the overall free agency structure. This ruling will help all Franchise Players in the future.

"We are very happy that Drew Brees has clarification on this matter, and we hope that it facilitates a successful negotiation for Drew and the Saints."

The NFL declined to comment on Burbank's ruling when reached by NFL.com and NFL Network.

While it's expected that a long-term deal will prevent the 2013 franchise tag from ever being used on Brees, Burbank's decision creates a leverage point for the quarterback's camp and clarifies a grey area in negotiations.
"Both parties correctly argue that Section 2(b)'s ambiguity easily could have been avoided, although I do not find the interpretive nourishment the NFLPA apparently does in that provision's use of 'a player' (or 'a Franchise Player') instead of 'one of its players,' " Burbank wrote. "Again, the core ambiguity seems to derive from the use of 'for the third time.' If the parties had intended the meaning urged by the NFL, it would have been a simple matter to replace that phrase with 'three times.' Given language elsewhere ... suggesting that the parties had a different purpose, one that is consistent with the derogative role Franchise Player designation plays in the structure of the CBA, I conclude that, were the Saints (or any other Club) to designate Brees a Franchise Player in 2013, such designation would be subject to the terms of Section 2(b)."

Brees and the Saints have until July 16 to hammer out a long-term deal. If they can't reach an agreement by then, Brees will be limited to playing on a one-year contract, and the Saints will be in the position of having to use the 2013 franchise tag, now set at roughly $23.6 million, on him.


Drew Brees wins franchise-tag grievance vs. NFL, Saints - NFL.com

TheOak 07-03-2012 03:19 PM

I sorta said this would be the ruling :-)

RaginCajun83 07-03-2012 03:21 PM

No kidding ....

TXGSP 07-03-2012 03:23 PM

With the release of this news and the announcement of the suspension appeal coming so soon after this it doesn't seem like a coincidence.

With the Brees decision hopefully the Saints can get this contract finalized.

ScottF 07-03-2012 04:05 PM

Again, this means nothing for us.
Brees isn't going to play under the tag, which means he plans on having a long term contract. Therefore, we won't be tagging him again next year.

pumpkindriver 07-03-2012 04:15 PM

Brees did this for 2 reasons, bargaining power in his current contract with the Saint's and also for all players down the road. Look for the announcement on the 16th.

Seer1 07-03-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pumpkindriver (Post 416073)
Brees did this for 2 reasons, bargaining power in his current contract with the Saint's and also for all players down the road. Look for the announcement on the 16th.

Or sooner. Now everyone involved knows the $$$ facts, we could be breathin' easier real soon.

voodooido 07-03-2012 04:29 PM

count on him signing a multi year deal soon. Saints will be more open now that a 23.5 mil contract is what they are facing. I see a 5yr 20.5 mil deal

Danno 07-03-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pumpkindriver (Post 416073)
Brees did this for 2 reasons, bargaining power in his current contract with the Saint's and also for all players down the road. Look for the announcement on the 16th.

I believe reason 1, but not sold on reason 2.

SaintsBro 07-03-2012 04:41 PM

The thing that leaps out at me the most about this decision, is that it's clear that the NFLPA lawyers have really been running rings around the NFL's lawyers, both in the bounty business and also in this stuff from the CBA from last year into now. I mean, how could you not see that language "any player" in the agreement and not see where this leads. For having this reputation of being such an iconic, big, badass, mega-influential corporation, the NFL has really had some of the shoddy lawyering I have ever seen. They're like buffoons.

TXGSP 07-03-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 416086)
The thing that leaps out at me the most about this decision, is that it's clear that the NFLPA lawyers have really been running rings around the NFL's lawyers, both in the bounty business and also in this stuff from the CBA from last year into now. I mean, how could you not see that language "any player" in the agreement and not see where this leads. For having this reputation of being such an iconic, big, badass, mega-influential corporation, the NFL has really had some of the shoddy lawyering I have ever seen. They're like buffoons.

Not sure about either set of lawyers running rings around the other. The League basically pushed the CBA into the Bounty appeal response. Any further action by the players will definately result in a response by the league similar to "That's what the CBA states, and we followed those guidelines".

As far as shoddy lawyers, they just look for people that will uphold their viewpoint (right or wrong). Look at the Doctor they had testify before Congress.

QBREES9 07-03-2012 06:54 PM

Good for Drew !

Srgt. Hulka 07-03-2012 07:07 PM

Personally I think it's a BS decision. Drew Brees knows all too well what the intent of the wording of the contract was. But, i guess the owners deserve what they get when they put vague wording in a contract, which to me wasn't vague at all.

Anyway Drew, you got that bull**** out of the way. Get your a$$ back to New Orleans and get a frikkin contract worked out, so you can get back to work and we the fans can start breathing again.

SmashMouth 07-03-2012 07:12 PM

Pay da man!

OldMaid 07-03-2012 11:04 PM

Pay da man big , his worth for a one-year contract.
Five years is way too long.
Three years is pushing it.
Two years would be ok and for him and next year, he and Coach Saen P finish their Saints run here before moving on to other places.

QBREES9 07-03-2012 11:25 PM

Ok when does Drew sign and for how long. 5 years 20 million. He had the best year for a Quarter Back last year. Step up Tom Benson. He has a lot of great years in front of him.

TheOak 07-04-2012 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 416156)
Ok when does Drew sign and for how long. 5 years 20 million. He had the best year for a Quarter Back last year. Step up Tom Benson. He has a lot of great years in front of him.


I am thinking in the $20M-$20.5 range for 5 years...

THEN I will buy a Brees Jersy...

I will never buy a Jersey for a player that could be wearing another teams colors in subsequent years.

burningmetal 07-04-2012 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 416155)
Pay da man big , his worth for a one-year contract.
Five years is way too long.
Three years is pushing it.
Two years would be ok and for him and next year, he and Coach Saen P finish their Saints run here before moving on to other places.

The only way Payton goes anywhere is if he gets fired. That's not gonna happen. It's not like college where you have some success and then you leave for the NFL for more money. When you're already an NFL head coach, there's no reason to go to another team unless you get fired, if any team wants you after being fired. That whole Dallas thing was just the media, as usual, having nothing better to do than stir up controversy.

mutineer10 07-04-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 416183)
THEN I will buy a Brees Jersey...

I will never buy a Jersey for a player that could be wearing another teams colors in subsequent years.

Agreed! Says my:
Ricky Williams Saints jersey
Kyle Turley Saints jersey
Joe Horn Saints jersey #1 (I've since acquired #2 after he retired)

Not to mention my:
Brett Favre Packers jersey

EDIT: My Brees jersey hangs in the closet, awaiting it's ruling ...

Mardigras9 07-05-2012 10:17 AM

Good, can we please get this deal done now and end this Saga.

Rugby Saint II 07-05-2012 02:04 PM

Drew has at least three great years ahead of him. He has another three really good ones. After that he's just another Joe Montana.:smile:


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