Drew Brees on Saints deal: I'm an 'eternal optimist'

WhoDat!656 · 07-11-2012, 10:46 PM

"I think I've been around this league long enough to understand how this works at times," Brees said. "In a lot of cases, it does go down to the wire, and you need a stopping point in order to bring everyone together and make sure it can get done.

"That stopping point is Monday, so let's hope we get something done by then."

Drew Brees on Saints deal: I'm an 'eternal optimist' - NFL.com

QBREES9 · 07-11-2012, 11:18 PM

Yuuuuuuuuuuup you will sign on monday. Do you really think your wife will let you walk away from 19.5 million dollars. Do you !

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-12-2012, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Yuuuuuuuuuuup you will sign on monday. Do you really think your wife will let you walk away from 19.5 million dollars. Do you !

Sure she would. She understands that it isn't really walking away from $19.5 million, which is a smoke and mirrors number. The only real dollars are the non-injury guaranteed dollars. Everything else is Monopoly money.

Remember the Albert Haynesworth $100 million contract with the Redskins? It's not the NBA where he was guaranteed to get all those dollars when he signed. Most of them were backloaded on the end of a very long contract period, with no expectation of ever being paid. Haynesworth got his signing bonus, and the Redskins paid a $21 million option in the second year of the contract because it was an uncapped year in 2010. After that, they essentially owed him nothing, with only the signing bonus counting against the cap after the 2010 season.

Right now here are DB's "guarantees":

$16.3 million in 2012
$23.6 million in 2013

both under the tag. That's $40 million, hard cash, against the cap right now, money.

Honestly, if the Saints' offer (which from all reports is from June 1st, before the hearing), doesn't offer more than $40 million guaranteed in the first two years, then why should DB even bother to look at it?

The eventual contract should have $50 million or so in guaranteed money, and the vast majority of that should be paid in the first three years.

The contract issue has never been about the total or average dollars. It is, has been, and will always be about guarantees and structure. The Saints have good reason to want to make this deal. The long term deal takes the same dollars as above, and spreads them out over the life of the contract. Brees has good reasons outlined above, as to why the guaranteed dollars should be well north of $40 million, and paid early, not later in the contract.

We shall soon see, won't we?

SFIAH

QBREES9 · 07-12-2012, 11:51 AM

10 million dollars a part and he's an eternal optimist. YEAH RIGHT !!!!!!!! LOL

Rugby Saint II · 07-12-2012, 11:56 PM

No. I'm the eternal optimist! This doesn't have the feel that I get from optimism. I felt it before and this ain't it!

The Dude · 07-13-2012, 12:02 AM

Brees is gone. Simply put. He may sign a tag or a 1 year deal but after that he's gone.

QBREES9 · 07-14-2012, 10:47 PM

Dude boy were you wrong ! LOL

07-11-2012, 10:46 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,001	Drew Brees on Saints deal: I'm an 'eternal optimist' "I think I've been around this league long enough to understand how this works at times," Brees said. "In a lot of cases, it does go down to the wire, and you need a stopping point in order to bring everyone together and make sure it can get done. "That stopping point is Monday, so let's hope we get something done by then." Drew Brees on Saints deal: I'm an 'eternal optimist' - NFL.com

07-12-2012, 08:00 AM	#3
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Originally Posted by QBREES9 Yuuuuuuuuuuup you will sign on monday. Do you really think your wife will let you walk away from 19.5 million dollars. Do you ! Sure she would. She understands that it isn't really walking away from $19.5 million, which is a smoke and mirrors number. The only real dollars are the non-injury guaranteed dollars. Everything else is Monopoly money. Remember the Albert Haynesworth $100 million contract with the Redskins? It's not the NBA where he was guaranteed to get all those dollars when he signed. Most of them were backloaded on the end of a very long contract period, with no expectation of ever being paid. Haynesworth got his signing bonus, and the Redskins paid a $21 million option in the second year of the contract because it was an uncapped year in 2010. After that, they essentially owed him nothing, with only the signing bonus counting against the cap after the 2010 season. Right now here are DB's "guarantees": $16.3 million in 2012 $23.6 million in 2013 both under the tag. That's $40 million, hard cash, against the cap right now, money. Honestly, if the Saints' offer (which from all reports is from June 1st, before the hearing), doesn't offer more than $40 million guaranteed in the first two years, then why should DB even bother to look at it? The eventual contract should have $50 million or so in guaranteed money, and the vast majority of that should be paid in the first three years. The contract issue has never been about the total or average dollars. It is, has been, and will always be about guarantees and structure. The Saints have good reason to want to make this deal. The long term deal takes the same dollars as above, and spreads them out over the life of the contract. Brees has good reasons outlined above, as to why the guaranteed dollars should be well north of $40 million, and paid early, not later in the contract. We shall soon see, won't we? SFIAH
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07-13-2012, 12:02 AM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Brees is gone. Simply put. He may sign a tag or a 1 year deal but after that he's gone.
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07-11-2012, 11:18 PM	#2
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Yuuuuuuuuuuup you will sign on monday. Do you really think your wife will let you walk away from 19.5 million dollars. Do you !

07-12-2012, 11:51 AM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	10 million dollars a part and he's an eternal optimist. YEAH RIGHT !!!!!!!! LOL

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	No. I'm the eternal optimist! This doesn't have the feel that I get from optimism. I felt it before and this ain't it!

07-14-2012, 10:47 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,982	Dude boy were you wrong ! LOL