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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The Top Dogs At the other end of the table, a hearty congratulations to the New York Jets’ model of consistency at right guard, Brandon Moore. While left guards Faneca and Matt Slauson finished among the last seven on the ...

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Old 07-14-2012, 06:56 AM   #1
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At the other end of the table, a hearty congratulations to the New York Jets’ model of consistency at right guard, Brandon Moore. While left guards Faneca and Matt Slauson finished among the last seven on the lst, Moore, by virtue of giving up just two sacks, two hits, and 34 hurries in three seasons, finished at the top of the pile. Brian Waters may not be the mauling guard he once was, but he remains near flawless in pass protection, finishing second overall. Another veteran, new Ravens guard Bobbie Williams, also finished in the Top 5 (fourth), with Josh Sitton sandwiched between the two. The last member of the top group was Steve Hutchinson, while new Bucs guard Carl Nicks finished in sixth. See, it’s not all bad news Bucs fans.

1 Brandon Moore NYJ 1585 38 98.17
2 Brian Waters NE 1689 43 98.05
3 Josh Sitton GB 1791 45 98.03
4 Bobbie Williams BLT 1454 36 98.02
5 Steve Hutchinson TEN 1480 38 97.97
6 Carl Nicks TB 1959 53 97.87
7 Rob Sims DET 1945 57 97.74
8 Richie Incognito MIA 1396 43 97.51
9 Andy Levitre BUF 1471 48 97.43
10 Harvey Dahl SL 1414 47 97.40
11 Logan Mankins NE 1459 48 97.40
12 Wade Smith HST 1399 47 97.39
13 Stephen Peterman DET 1736 58 97.38
14 Ben Grubbs NO 1436 50 97.27
15 Jahri Evans NO 1933 71 97.13

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Grubbs above Evans huh? I wouldn't have thought that.
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Grubbs above Evans huh? I wouldn't have thought that.
I wouldn't have either until I saw the rankings were focusing on pass protection ... maybe Evans gets him in the run-blocking dept.
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I wouldn't have either until I saw the rankings were focusing on pass protection ... maybe Evans gets him in the run-blocking dept.
Whats confusing is that during the Grubbs/Nicks conversations, I thought Grubbs excelled at run blocking more so than pass protection.

Maybe I'm remembering it backwards.
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Whats confusing is that during the Grubbs/Nicks conversations, I thought Grubbs excelled at run blocking more so than pass protection.

Maybe I'm remembering it backwards.
No, thinking back, I think you got it right & Grubbs was described as more of a run blocker ... more good news for you guys now that he's getting ranked up there as a pass blocker ... I like that PFF.
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Originally Posted by SloMotion View Post
No, thinking back, I think you got it right & Grubbs was described as more of a run blocker ... more good news for you guys now that he's getting ranked up there as a pass blocker ... I like that PFF.
It's not you guys anymore.....it's us now SloMotion!
Grubbs is a run blocker first. That's where his value lies. Drew gets rid of the ball so quickly that my mother could play guard. She's certainly big enough.
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Question. If Drew deal was done early. Could the Saints have kept Nicks ? Just a question.
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Question. If Drew deal was done early. Could the Saints have kept Nicks ? Just a question.
I think if drews deal was done early enough, the least we could have done was franchise him, maybe even given loomis enough time for a deal

But hey, we now have a guy that's supposedly just as good, not a mauler but one of the better guards for less money
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Question. If Drew deal was done early. Could the Saints have kept Nicks ? Just a question.
Possibly, but I doubt we would have been able to keep Colston as well.

I could be wrong on that.
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