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Danno 07-30-2012 05:08 PM

Payton, Loomis and Vitt refuse to speak to Peter King
 
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8. I think this is the cost of doing business the way I think it should be done in NFL journalism these days -- and I tell you this because it may affect my ability to know as much about the Saints as I've known in the past few years. Joe Vitt and Mickey Loomis, the New Orleans past and future 2012 brain trust, are not speaking to me, presumably because of my reporting on the Saints' bounty case.

Sean Payton told me earlier in the year he wouldn't speak to me either, because he didn't think I reported the story fairly. I'd had great relationships with Loomis and Payton. But that's how it goes. For the record, I regret nothing that I've written or said on the case.
Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Philip Rivers, others talk about NFL training camps, 2012 NFL season - Peter King - SI.com
Wow, good for them.

Now do the same with Prisco.

Seer1 07-30-2012 05:17 PM

Maybe someone can get the owner of the Creole Creamery to add King to the do not serve this man list!

Utah_Saint 07-30-2012 05:22 PM

The only things that Peter King has written about the Saints this offseason is what Roger Goodell has told him. He's done nothing to investigate the story or challenge the NFL's position in any way. Just my opinion but I think he's more concerned with his access to the commissioner's office and high ranking people in the NFL than he is with doing any actual reporting. Journalism is hard work, pandering is easy.

AlaskaSaints 07-30-2012 06:18 PM

Peter Whom?

Alaska

Luda34 07-30-2012 06:23 PM

Act like a man and grow a pair or you really mad because another man want talk to you

saintfan 07-30-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 422436)
The only things that Peter King has written about the Saints this offseason is what Roger Goodell has told him. He's done nothing to investigate the story or challenge the NFL's position in any way. Just my opinion but I think he's more concerned with his access to the commissioner's office and high ranking people in the NFL than he is with doing any actual reporting. Journalism is hard work, pandering is easy.

Oh they all are. Not just King. I'm so disgusted with 'sports reporters' I can't even think about it. It makes my blood boil how the media kissed Roger's backside for fear of losing their access. That makes each one of them tons worse than anybody who took a dollar for this alleged bounty program.

Beastmode 07-30-2012 07:00 PM

When Roger started this mess there was story after story about the ironclad case against the Saints. Some even stating the Saints got off lightly.

Fast forward a few months and the ironclad evidence turned into a bio degradable diaper six months in a landfill. Fast forward again to Vilma's suit and despite the Judge's concerns, it sounds like crickets out there.

I have not seen one major sports reporter bring this to light. When a judge says Roger sliced the salami thin and that she is troubled by their whole process those are serious statements. If King isn't going to take his craft serious then there is no reason anyone in the Saints organization should take him serious.

saintsfan1976 07-30-2012 07:10 PM

"but that's how it goes.." ???

Peter King is even douchier than I thought!

Halo 07-30-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 422458)
"but that's how it goes.." ???

Peter King is even douchier than I thought!

I said in another thread, I won't even read Peter King or SI. Thanks for giving me highlights because I refuse to click the link.

And that goes way back before Bountygate was ever a glimmer in Goodell's eye.

nicebush25 07-30-2012 08:33 PM

I don't think it will have any effect on your ability Peter. You never really known much about the saints.

WhoDat!656 07-30-2012 09:31 PM

I sent this to Dyck King's e-mail:

Perhaps is you had INVESTIGATED the 'bounty" scandal yourself instead of taking the league's word for it, Payton, Loomis and Vitt would probably talk to you.
When the league initially says 22-27 Saints players were involved, but only name 2 current and 2 former Saints, that should have sent up a red flag.
The league said they had video evidence of Anthony Hargrove saying 'pay me my money' that confirmed the 'bounty' program, but then the video DIDN'T show that, but the league said it didn't matter.
Goodell is trying to head off all of the concussion lawsuits that are being filed and he is flogging the Saints on the public stage.

The Dude 07-30-2012 09:42 PM

Prisco has actually been pretty good about all this and been on our side.

WhoDat!656 07-30-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 422497)
Prisco has actually been pretty good about all this and been on our side.

He predicted the Saints would finish 9-7!! How is that on our side?

Seer1 07-30-2012 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 422500)
He predicted the Saints would finish 9-7!! How is that on our side?

He's just giving our guys a little more motivation.

The Dude 07-31-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 422500)
He predicted the Saints would finish 9-7!! How is that on our side?

He's said a lot to dispute the leagues allegations on bounty gate. Maybe I'm wrong maybe it was someone else but I could swear it was him. I know it was someone who usually does not report favorably on the Saints

Halo 07-31-2012 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 422522)
He's said a lot to dispute the leagues allegations on bounty gate. Maybe I'm wrong maybe it was someone else but I could swear it was him. I know it was someone who usually does not report favorably on the Saints

Dude, I think you're thinking about Mike Florio of ProFootballTalk. Florio has been the ONLY journalist to give the Bountygate evidence a full look-over.

Pete Prisco is such a Saints hater that he gave the Saints an F for our draft grade this year because of Bountygate. He's a total troll and a notorious Saints HATER.
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Best pick: Fourth-round receiver Nick Toon was a productive player at Wisconsin. He should be able to compete for a No. 4 job, which is a spot that sees the field for the Saints.
Questionable move: Bounty-gate. That caused them to get stripped of a key second-round pick.
Draft Grades: Bengals' haul gets high praise; Saints flunk the weekend - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

http://www.moosedenied.com/images/2012/4/prisco2.jpg

TheOak 07-31-2012 06:44 AM

"I regret nothing that I've written or said on the case"

Then why are you whining? People with no regret do not b1tch and whine about the outcome of their efforts.

Also Dick King... Why is that article gone?

Saint_LB 07-31-2012 06:56 AM

Why would they talk to anyone? If they can suspend people without revealing evidence, then what would stop them from misquoting, photoshopping...whatever.

SloMotion 07-31-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nicebush25 (Post 422480)
I don't think it will have any effect on your ability Peter. You never really known much about the saints.

... or had any real 'ability' to begin with, :lol: ... boycott the spin-doctors, this is exactly how I would expect Payton, Loomis & Vitt to respond in this situation, good for them!

SmashMouth 07-31-2012 07:39 AM

They should refuse interviews from all of those ruffian reporters!

TheOak 07-31-2012 07:45 AM

All interviews should be refused this year PERIOD.

Nothing new or interesting will come out about Bounty-Gate.... And it seems that all questions will subsequently end up with "how are yall fairing with out Payton?"

No more speculation, talk to us in week 20 and ask so what were the most difficult hurdles to overcome in going 19-0 with out your head coach.

Seer1 07-31-2012 08:41 AM

Hey Dick....er, Peter is it really that hard to admit you were wrong? That you over reacted? That you jumped on the bandwagon before you knew the entire song? If you won't hold yourself accountable for your mistakes, how can you insist anyone else do so? I'll be more than happy to admit I'm wrong about AA, the offense's answer to Scott Shanle. If I am really wrong that is.

sharke 07-31-2012 08:48 AM

Given the suspensions, isn't in the best interest of all 3 not to speak to the media anyway?

Mardigras9 07-31-2012 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 422553)
All interviews should be refused this year PERIOD.

How great would that be. Only give interviews to local supporting reporters until after the Superbowl, priceless.

ScottF 07-31-2012 09:45 AM

I think this is the cost of doing business the way I think it should be done in NFL journalism these days
the way it should be done? does he mean write-first-ask-questions-later? @$$hole

He is on Dan Patrick this morning sounding contrite, like a girl who just got dumped before the prom.
He did say he believes there was definitely a pay for performance program in place,but that the Vilma bounty situation is a gray area. Vilma loses $5 mill and a year of his life in a gray area?

TheOak 07-31-2012 11:08 AM

These guys do not preform journalism... Its glamorized entertainment speculation.

Forecasting any record is SPECULATION.

RaginCajun83 07-31-2012 01:44 PM

I'd like to see the whole team take a vow of silence this season but due to many stupid NFL rules, that isn't going to happen

Rugby Saint II 07-31-2012 01:59 PM

Why to talk to the reporters........err.......journalists.....err.......????

ChrisXVI 07-31-2012 02:54 PM

This is like those TMZ d-bags getting butthurt when celebrities won't talk to them lol. Peter King is garbage, absolutely worthless.

QBREES9 07-31-2012 03:01 PM

Your a dirt bag Peter King.

NuNu318 07-31-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 422639)
I'd like to see the whole team take a vow of silence this season but due to many stupid NFL rules, that isn't going to happen

All they do is fine you if you don't make yourself available for media...If I was Benson I would tell all players and coaches to refuse any interviews and he'll foot the bill for any fines this season. F@#$ the media....

ChrisXVI 07-31-2012 03:49 PM

I'd like to know how in the hell Peter King considers himself a journalist when his job is to make predictions... Ponder that for a second; it's his JOB to make PREDICTIONS. When did predicting what team will win the Super Bowl become journalism?!

AsylumGuido 07-31-2012 04:10 PM

Do not forget that the word is that Goodell put a "gag order" on the front office personnel disciplined in this case. I know, he has denied that, but several sources have said that is what they were told.

But, why would Goodell lie? Easy! Because it comes so easy.

:rolleyes:

TXGSP 07-31-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NuNu318 (Post 422685)
All they do is fine you if you don't make yourself available for media...If I was Benson I would tell all players and coaches to refuse any interviews and he'll foot the bill for any fines this season. F@#$ the media....

The player contract may state they have to make themselves available to the media, but does not state they have to give them any information.

An agreement by the players and coaches to give them a "No Comment" or "That's a good question, but I have no response", or just plain slience (just stare back at them). would satisfy the "available to media" requirement".

The clause states they have to "be available to the media", not have to speak to the media. The right to Free Speech also includes the right NOT TO SPEAK.

That non-act would do more than any other action(s) by the players, coaches, and organization.

saintsfan1976 07-31-2012 08:51 PM

If Drew Brees call you a dick, you're definitely a dick.

TheOak 08-01-2012 07:18 AM

Acceptable Q&A

How are you today? "Fine"
How have practices gone so far: "fine"
How difficult will it be to play with out your head coach this season?
"I refuse to glamorize or speculate on what has transpired this off season or what may come of the future so that entertainment columnists have something to put into their daily blogs that are framed as journalism."


"I had bacon for breakfast if you are interested.... not exciting enough for you?"

NonieT 08-01-2012 07:44 AM

He is on Dan Patrick this morning sounding contrite, like a girl who just got dumped before the prom.
He did say he believes there was definitely a pay for performance program in place,but that the Vilma bounty situation is a gray area. Vilma loses $5 mill and a year of his life in a gray area?[/QUOTE]

If he believes there was a pay for performance system in place how could Vilma's situation be a grey area? He can't have it both ways, either there was a pay for performance system or a bounty system in place. He needs to make up his mind.

TheOak 08-01-2012 07:56 AM

"Believes"- he just can not stay away from speculation can he?

Assumption - We give a flying fk what he "believes".

lose/lose

SmashMouth 08-01-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 422553)
All interviews should be refused this year PERIOD.

Nothing new or interesting will come out about Bounty-Gate.... And it seems that all questions will subsequently end up with "how are yall fairing with out Payton?"

No more speculation, talk to us in week 20 and ask so what were the most difficult hurdles to overcome in going 19-0 with out your head coach.

No....I changed my mind .... grant them ... just say... NO COMMENT ..! Next!?

Let's keep the chip on our shoulder until we are 19 and EAUX!

TheOak 08-01-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 422914)
No....I changed my mind .... grant them ... just say... NO COMMENT ..! Next!?

Let's keep the chip on our shoulder until we are 19 and EAUX!

Ok i am with that.... not fond of "no comment".

a hearty "F-U!" instead?

Come again?

F-U!


I can see the articles now: I have recently created a pie chart that will explain the replies from all of the new Orleans Saints to reporters.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...HAD14DKeLhrdeZ


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