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saintfan 06-11-2004 09:23 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Vikings reserve cornerback Eric Kelly is asking to be released, but coach Mike Tice isn't ready to grant his request.

Kelly, a four-year veteran, was upset with Tice for moving second-year cornerback Rushen Jones ahead of him on the depth chart during this week's minicamp. After meeting with Kelly on Tuesday, Tice excused Kelly from the rest of the camp to "clear his head."

"I told Eric he should go home and think about things," Tice said. "He was disappointed with the move we made and he said he wants to be released. His agent is putting it out there that he should be released, but I'm not releasing my fourth corner."

Kelly's agent, Mitch Frankel, said he was "under the impression" on Wednesday that Kelly would be released after talking with Vikings vice president of operations Rob Brzezinski. Brzezinski said the club is considering Kelly's request but no decision had been made.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...ight&type=lgns


saintfan 06-18-2004 03:57 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Kelly has been cut.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Cornerback Eric Kelly was released by the Minnesota Vikings on Friday after failing to report for the final week of offseason workouts and asking for his release .

Kelly, who started 11 games as a rookie in 2001 and 12 games in 2002, was expected to be Minnesota\'s fourth cornerback.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

saintsfan1313 06-18-2004 04:46 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Granted I kno our depth at CB isnt great, but does anyone think this will be a good pickup. If he\'s pissed about the depth chart in Minn, hows gunna act on our depth chart? He\'ll be behing Thomas, Craft, Ambrose AND Brown. I don\'t think it\'ll be a good addition. But that\'s me, and I\'m SURE someone here has to disagree.

ami2kind4words 06-18-2004 07:18 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Last we need to do is sign some other team(s) # 3 corner cancer. If anything the saints negotiate a trade for one of the Raider\'s corner:
1. Ike Charlton 6\'0 205 D2 SEA 00
2, Jacoby Shepherd 6\'2 205 D2 STL 00
3 Charles Woodson 6\'0 200 D1 RAI 98

The raiders are loaded w/ corners, it seems impossible to keep all of them. Projected starters:
Charles Woodson (D1) Nnamdi Asomugha (D1) Ray Buchanon (D3)

Phillip Buchanon (D1) Dernard Walker (D3) Ike Charlton(D2) Jacoby Shepherd(D2)

Euphoria 06-18-2004 07:32 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
We don\'t need depth at corner... we have ample amout of cb\'s. We certainly don\'t need any other teams scabs.

WhoDat 06-19-2004 09:31 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Quote:

We don\'t need depth at corner...

UUUUUUHHHHHHH, WHAT? To quote the Three Amigos, \"What the hell are you talking about?\"

ami2kind4words 06-19-2004 04:42 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
[quote:4ef9470e49]We don\'t need depth at corner... we have ample amout of cb\'s.



Saints | Looking To Add CB For Depth - from www.KFFL.com
Fri, 18 Jun 2004 12:36:45 -0700

The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports the New Orleans Saints would like to add a cornerback to bolster depth.



Euphoria 06-19-2004 05:54 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
...unless its a shut down corner, what do we need with a 3-4 stringer?

ami2kind4words 06-19-2004 08:28 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Quote:

...unless its a shut down corner, what do we need with a 3-4 stringer?

Reasons:
1. Ashley Ambrose is too old
2. Keyou Craver too fat
3. Jason Craft ????? (meaning injures)
4. Deveron Harper ??????

Question who are the 3rd & 4th cb?

D_it_up 06-20-2004 08:08 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
The defensive backfield as a whole needs depth. Another corner would be great, but safety has been sorely overlooked. Mitchell, Bellamy, Tebucky, and Gleason? Add another corner? O.K. Add another safety? O.K. Adding another corner AND safety? Somebody\'s done their homework.

Danno 06-20-2004 08:52 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
I say sign him and let him battle it out. Low Risk / High Reward.
If his skills sucks, cut him
If his attitude sucks, cut him

Best case: He shines and contributes.

Worst case: He gets cut, then he could be labeled by many here as Hasletts 47th \"Team Cancer\" in 4 years.

BigShop 06-20-2004 09:41 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
It is highly unlikely that the Saints will be trading for a an upgrade in the starting lineup for corners. So the next best thing is to add depth, a steady crop of able corners makes the whole unit better. And if one of our starters were to get injured one of the backups would step up, it\'s just the nature of the game. So I would love to see them sign Eric Kelly, and for that matter Shane Walton (Rams safety that just got cut from ND) too.

JKool 06-20-2004 10:29 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
I say that getting one of the Raider\'s CBs sounds like a very good plan. Let\'s get Phil Buchanon or Walker - either would be a solid 3/4th stringer and excellent nickle guy if Ambrose or Craft get hurt.

I thought Harper was a Safety - thus, my few protests about depth at Safety. If he is a CB, all the better, but I don\'t think he is.

Competition at the CB position can only help the team this year. Other than Thomas there aren\'t really any established starters (though I expect that Ambrose will be our NB). Imagine if two guys fought it out in training camp and surpassed Thomas even - that would leave us in GREAT shape with Thomas as our NB and Ambrose for Dime or reserve! Kick azz.

Danno 06-20-2004 03:38 PM

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I thought Harper was a Safety - thus, my few protests about depth at Safety. If he is a CB, all the better, but I don\'t think he is.
He is a CB kinda. He can and does play both. He played safety during TC last year and took over for T\'bucky in the 2nd half of the Colts game last year.
It would be unfair to judge him by that game though since I think we had about 4 starters healthy on defense.

He may be listed as a CB, but I think his future is at FS or even a SS if he can add some bulk.

WhoDat 06-21-2004 03:09 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
My .02, to steal from a fellow WhoTang Clan member:

Depth at corner is a concern. Quality at corner is a concern. Getting better starting corners would be nice, however not essential to success this season. Adding depth is MORE important... why???

B/c last year our two starting corners got hurt. If Thomas and Johnny Jacksonville get hurt, what\'s left? Brown and Ambrose. That\'s scary. What\'s worse, who is our nickelback in THAT situation???

You don\'t think the Saints need depth at corner, and like Danno said, safety as well, you\'re plain nuts. ;)

turbo_dog 06-21-2004 04:12 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
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I say that getting one of the Raider\'s CBs sounds like a very good plan. Let\'s get Phil Buchanon or Walker - either would be a solid 3/4th stringer and excellent nickle guy if Ambrose or Craft get hurt.
Phillip Buchanon a 3rd or 4th stringer? Are you out of your mind? He would be an immediate starter on almost any team in the league. If you remember it was a toss up between picking him or Stallworth a couple of years ago. I was happy with the pick of Stallworth, but it was tough because I am a Miami fan.

Last year he had 6 ints and returned 2 for touchdowns. He returned 2 punts for touchdowns. Oh yeah, he blocked 2 kicks, too.

Not bad for his second year in the league, huh?

saintsfan1313 06-21-2004 05:22 PM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
There\'s no way the raiders would get rid of buchanon. They know with him and woodson, they are set at CB for years. Granted, I would love for us to get buchanon, i think he would come in and start from day 1. I thought we should have gone him over stallworth, but thats neither here nor there. we arent going to get a shutdown corner, thats almost a given. i would take buchanon over mckenzie any day. a player who plays with heart, not someone who plays with their hand on their wallet. But let\'s get real, thomas and craft our the guys for this season, whether we like it or not.

JKool 06-24-2004 11:47 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
I can\'t believe that I\'m getting yelled at for saying something conservative! ;)

I agree with you guys; I was secretly salivating over Buchanon too!

PS - Danno, thanks for the info - solid as always. I\'m kinda excited about this Harper kid.

PPS - WhoDat is totally on the money with this:
Quote:

You don\'t think the Saints need depth at corner, and like Danno said, safety as well, you\'re plain nuts.

saintfan 06-30-2004 09:53 AM

Vikings CB Kelly Wants Out
 
Houston Texans: Moving to further strengthen a secondary that will undergo some changes this season, the Texans have claimed former Vikings cornerback Eric Kelly on waivers.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1831448


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