Drew Brees league's Most accurate QB in passing last season

pherein · 08-04-2012, 08:46 PM

Thats not an accurate depiction I think. Any QB's throws out of bounds is a lost chance, so its equal. You think Brees doesn't throw balls away to.
Every stat has flaws and truths to it. Throwing them all way makes no sense, and would mean Brady is equal to sanchez because we wouldn't know how to measure them. I dont think theres any argument that Brees is great in my book,lol.

Also by not throwing out of bounds as much, which could be an excuse for some QB, because they just dont see the field well, Brees shows how well he reads coverage and knows the offense.

I can believe Rogers is 9th. I think you might be leaning more toward the Legend of Rogers rather than the facts or stats on Rogers. Brees beat Rogers in almost all stats, even Ints lol. Rogers only had a higher passer rating.

GB showed that even without Rogers that offence can do just fine with a 2nd string. Their TE/WR core is crazy good. Dont get me wrong I think Rogers is great.

Why wouldn't you put Rogers behind Orton for accuracy ? I mean if the throws prove it. We are not going on fiction or belief here. Thats a bad stat,lol

I was surprised to Brady at 21. One would think it, but there it is. This isn't a QBR and everyone gets the same rules.
Why don't you take away Throws out of bounds and see what list you come up with.

The Dude · 08-04-2012, 08:48 PM

I would think he was the most accurate QB over the past few seasons No?

QBREES9 · 08-04-2012, 10:33 PM

Yes.

pherein · 08-05-2012, 01:22 AM

yea, probably sense 2006 is my completely uneducated guess.

dsrdsrdsr · 08-05-2012, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by pherein

Why wouldn't you put Rogers behind Orton for accuracy ? I mean if the throws prove it. We are not going on fiction or belief here. Thats a bad stat,lol

I was surprised to Brady at 21. One would think it, but there it is. This isn't a QBR and everyone gets the same rules.

The reason I wouldn't put Rodgers behind Orton for accuracy is because Orton doesn't throw long. It's a bit like comparing kickers by looking at how many kicks they make, without checking whether one of them does nothing but PATs while the other is trying 60-yard FGs.

There are only three possible candidates for "greatest QB in the league" - Brees, Rodgers, Brady. No-one else can make any sort of case. If any stat puts two of those three 9th and 21st, it's a sign that the stat is no use in evaluation - not a sign that Rodgers is worse than Orton and that Brady isn't top 20.

I'm not disputing that Brees may be best in the league - I'm only disputing that this stat is any use.

08-04-2012, 08:46 PM	#11
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Thats not an accurate depiction I think. Any QB's throws out of bounds is a lost chance, so its equal. You think Brees doesn't throw balls away to. Every stat has flaws and truths to it. Throwing them all way makes no sense, and would mean Brady is equal to sanchez because we wouldn't know how to measure them. I dont think theres any argument that Brees is great in my book,lol. Also by not throwing out of bounds as much, which could be an excuse for some QB, because they just dont see the field well, Brees shows how well he reads coverage and knows the offense. I can believe Rogers is 9th. I think you might be leaning more toward the Legend of Rogers rather than the facts or stats on Rogers. Brees beat Rogers in almost all stats, even Ints lol. Rogers only had a higher passer rating. GB showed that even without Rogers that offence can do just fine with a 2nd string. Their TE/WR core is crazy good. Dont get me wrong I think Rogers is great. Why wouldn't you put Rogers behind Orton for accuracy ? I mean if the throws prove it. We are not going on fiction or belief here. Thats a bad stat,lol I was surprised to Brady at 21. One would think it, but there it is. This isn't a QBR and everyone gets the same rules. Why don't you take away Throws out of bounds and see what list you come up with.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	I would think he was the most accurate QB over the past few seasons No?
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08-05-2012, 06:30 PM	#15
dsrdsrdsr Registered Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 34	Originally Posted by pherein Why wouldn't you put Rogers behind Orton for accuracy ? I mean if the throws prove it. We are not going on fiction or belief here. Thats a bad stat,lol I was surprised to Brady at 21. One would think it, but there it is. This isn't a QBR and everyone gets the same rules. The reason I wouldn't put Rodgers behind Orton for accuracy is because Orton doesn't throw long. It's a bit like comparing kickers by looking at how many kicks they make, without checking whether one of them does nothing but PATs while the other is trying 60-yard FGs. There are only three possible candidates for "greatest QB in the league" - Brees, Rodgers, Brady. No-one else can make any sort of case. If any stat puts two of those three 9th and 21st, it's a sign that the stat is no use in evaluation - not a sign that Rodgers is worse than Orton and that Brady isn't top 20. I'm not disputing that Brees may be best in the league - I'm only disputing that this stat is any use.
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