Run Defense vs. Arizona

papz · 08-05-2012, 10:38 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Maybe we were looking at two different games. I saw much of the same old no-wrap tackling like much of last year's D.

I guess we were. Our first unit looked hella stout.

Halo · 08-05-2012, 10:39 PM

hmmm, I'm with the lets give it 2 pre-season games before evaluating.
I thought our D-line played exceptionally well.
Martez Wilson and Cam Jordan looked good.

What about Sedric Elllis? Did he play poorly? Not at all.
And Lofton? Come on guys, we saw some good things tonight.

The Dude · 08-05-2012, 10:46 PM

I saw some great things out of key players. Tez, Lofton, Ellis, Jenkins, Jorden, to name a few. They just need to come together as a unit a bit. Yes our running D did look bad, but we are keying in on that because we have seen it before and it is a burning problem. Looking at the big picture I think we did well. Especially the starters. I will give them till the third pre season game before I start worrying about any position. Another position of concern for me is the Oline. Again I think it is even more important for them to play together and gel because we have basically replaced our entire oline in the past two seasons.

Beastmode · 08-05-2012, 10:53 PM

They actually looked good enough to be average to slightly better which is all we need to make a serious run. Little concerned about penalties but way too early to start dinging.

alleycat_126 · 08-05-2012, 11:00 PM

You cant tell me there weren't some things to grow on. That is why we play these right. I saw by definition an actual bounty hit!!!! ( Sedrick Ellis on Kevin Corn on the Kolb) An actual Malcolm Jenkins Int!!!!! Several Martez Wilson sacks on third downs. a 17-7 stop of the offense that if chase daniels puts in the endzone we are not even talking about the d fense. Give us a break with the sky is fallin talk!!!!

SaintsBro · 08-05-2012, 11:12 PM

If you did not have fun watching the game, then maybe you should not have watched the game.

spkb25 · 08-06-2012, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by Ashley

I'm not even going to say anything bad our team yet. I do feel your pain man, it does seem year in and year out. So I do see where you are going, but I'm not jumping on that ship yet.

yeah and it was the opening game, but certainly didn't look fantastic

TheOak · 08-06-2012, 07:07 AM

They looked GOOD! Defenses are always the slowest out of the starting blocks each season.. This is why QB's but up such big numbers in week 1 and 2.

1. I saw open field tackling. New to us... traditionally its been the open field spear attempt.
2. I saw tackles behind the line of scrimmage. We normally wait for someone to trip once he hits the pile.
3. Lofton looked damn good.

We held Arizona to 82 yards rushing and the longest was 12 yards... They averages a measly 2.6 YPC.

First QTR was the litmus test.
Interception
3 and out
took out a QB for free.

Our starting CB were out so I give them a pass on this game even though the Cards ave 5.7 yards per pass.

SmashMouth · 08-06-2012, 07:11 AM

Well... they DID register a cart-off, almost.

Or is it Kolb who just can't cut it?

saintsfan1976 · 08-06-2012, 07:14 AM

They were gassed. Plain and simple.

08-05-2012, 10:38 PM	#11
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,681	Originally Posted by leilung Maybe we were looking at two different games. I saw much of the same old no-wrap tackling like much of last year's D. I guess we were. Our first unit looked hella stout.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,205 Blog Entries: 45	hmmm, I'm with the lets give it 2 pre-season games before evaluating. I thought our D-line played exceptionally well. Martez Wilson and Cam Jordan looked good. What about Sedric Elllis? Did he play poorly? Not at all. And Lofton? Come on guys, we saw some good things tonight. spkb25, Ashley, st thomas and 2 others like this.

08-05-2012, 10:46 PM	#13
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	I saw some great things out of key players. Tez, Lofton, Ellis, Jenkins, Jorden, to name a few. They just need to come together as a unit a bit. Yes our running D did look bad, but we are keying in on that because we have seen it before and it is a burning problem. Looking at the big picture I think we did well. Especially the starters. I will give them till the third pre season game before I start worrying about any position. Another position of concern for me is the Oline. Again I think it is even more important for them to play together and gel because we have basically replaced our entire oline in the past two seasons.
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	They actually looked good enough to be average to slightly better which is all we need to make a serious run. Little concerned about penalties but way too early to start dinging. spkb25 likes this.
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alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	You cant tell me there weren't some things to grow on. That is why we play these right. I saw by definition an actual bounty hit!!!! ( Sedrick Ellis on Kevin Corn on the Kolb) An actual Malcolm Jenkins Int!!!!! Several Martez Wilson sacks on third downs. a 17-7 stop of the offense that if chase daniels puts in the endzone we are not even talking about the d fense. Give us a break with the sky is fallin talk!!!! spkb25 and CharityMike like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Originally Posted by Ashley I'm not even going to say anything bad our team yet. I do feel your pain man, it does seem year in and year out. So I do see where you are going, but I'm not jumping on that ship yet. yeah and it was the opening game, but certainly didn't look fantastic

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	They looked GOOD! Defenses are always the slowest out of the starting blocks each season.. This is why QB's but up such big numbers in week 1 and 2. 1. I saw open field tackling. New to us... traditionally its been the open field spear attempt. 2. I saw tackles behind the line of scrimmage. We normally wait for someone to trip once he hits the pile. 3. Lofton looked damn good. We held Arizona to 82 yards rushing and the longest was 12 yards... They averages a measly 2.6 YPC. First QTR was the litmus test. Interception 3 and out took out a QB for free. Our starting CB were out so I give them a pass on this game even though the Cards ave 5.7 yards per pass. Danno likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Well... they DID register a cart-off, almost. Or is it Kolb who just can't cut it?

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