NFL in settlement talks with suspended players!!!!!!!!!!

08-06-2012, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by sharke

But why would the NFL settle? Their case is clearly air tight w/o any room for doubt....unless Goodell was wrong but...nah, that could never happen......

I am not a truster of twitter lol..

However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official.

They have already publicly admitted that they were wrong on Hargrove.

As far as for the coaches... Well that is going to depend on how hard Vilma and Ginsburg want to push in the negotiations. The coaches are not included in this suit and they have all publicly (except for Vitt) admitted and apologized...

This will test the strength of both sides cases and testicular fortitude.

D_it_up · 08-06-2012, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by sharke

liked just for the reference....seriously though, we need more Original Trilogy in our lives....

Yeah, I'm a fan boy of the trilogy. I try to make it a point to make a reference once a day.

jeanpierre · 08-06-2012, 06:53 AM

IF this were true, then Goodell must be dragged into court and forced to show docs; if there's doubt about the evidence, then the Inquisition comes into full doubt...

I want to get Cerullo on the rack, err, stand and sit that little coward squirm...

saintsfan1976 · 08-06-2012, 06:56 AM

Keep pushing Vilma. You are the only one who can bring this entire facade down!

sharke · 08-06-2012, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official.

I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting.

sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case.

TheOak · 08-06-2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by sharke

I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting.

sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case.

Truth...Justice...American way.... all that glory and fun stuff.

As mush as I enjoyed seeing men in pads and helmets playing football once again.. I do not want the following to happen:

Judge rules that CBA has been violated, needs to be rewritten, season is cancelled until a new CBA is in place.

Sorry Vilma.. My need for sanity overrides your career.

sharke · 08-06-2012, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Truth...Justice...American way.... all that glory and fun stuff.

Rocky 4?

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

As mush as I enjoyed seeing men in pads and helmets playing football once again.. I do not want the following to happen:

Judge rules that CBA has been violated, needs to be rewritten, season is cancelled until a new CBA is in place.

Sorry Vilma.. My need for sanity overrides your career.

I doubt it would ever get to that. Would lead to more rulings overturned and personal suits if such an event happened.

Budsdrinker · 08-06-2012, 08:34 AM

Here's what my crystal ball is telling me. Injuction will be granted, suspended players get to play which gets everyone in an uproar calling for Goodell to step down because he over reacted to having his feelings hurt in the first place and Condolezza Rice is the new commisioner.

TheOak · 08-06-2012, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Here's what my crystal ball is telling me. Injuction will be granted, suspended players get to play which gets everyone in an uproar calling for Goodell to step down because he over reacted to having his feelings hurt in the first place and Condolezza Rice is the new commisioner.

Suspended players get to play except for Vilma who cant play because he is still injured... lol

Beastmode · 08-06-2012, 08:42 AM

I suspected they would try and call a truce. If they cut all suspensions in half, including the coaches then yes, this is a good deal. Both sides made mistakes. Meet in the middle and drive on. If it's just Vilma then no.

Vilma should just go ahead and fight it out. It makes no sense to adjust one player's sentence.

08-06-2012, 06:42 AM	#31
Threaded by TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by sharke But why would the NFL settle? Their case is clearly air tight w/o any room for doubt....unless Goodell was wrong but...nah, that could never happen...... I am not a truster of twitter lol.. However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official. They have already publicly admitted that they were wrong on Hargrove. As far as for the coaches... Well that is going to depend on how hard Vilma and Ginsburg want to push in the negotiations. The coaches are not included in this suit and they have all publicly (except for Vitt) admitted and apologized... This will test the strength of both sides cases and testicular fortitude.
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08-06-2012, 06:47 AM	#32
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by sharke liked just for the reference....seriously though, we need more Original Trilogy in our lives.... Yeah, I'm a fan boy of the trilogy. I try to make it a point to make a reference once a day. sharke likes this.

08-06-2012, 06:53 AM	#33
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	IF this were true, then Goodell must be dragged into court and forced to show docs; if there's doubt about the evidence, then the Inquisition comes into full doubt... I want to get Cerullo on the rack, err, stand and sit that little coward squirm... saintsfan1976 likes this.

08-06-2012, 06:56 AM	#34
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,530 Blog Entries: 3	Keep pushing Vilma. You are the only one who can bring this entire facade down! Ashley and sharke like this.

08-06-2012, 07:59 AM	#35
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	Originally Posted by x626xBlack However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official. I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting. sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case. SaintsBro likes this.

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08-06-2012, 08:17 AM	#36
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by sharke I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting. sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case. Truth...Justice...American way.... all that glory and fun stuff. As mush as I enjoyed seeing men in pads and helmets playing football once again.. I do not want the following to happen: Judge rules that CBA has been violated, needs to be rewritten, season is cancelled until a new CBA is in place. Sorry Vilma.. My need for sanity overrides your career.

08-06-2012, 08:24 AM	#37
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Truth...Justice...American way.... all that glory and fun stuff. Rocky 4? Originally Posted by x626xBlack As mush as I enjoyed seeing men in pads and helmets playing football once again.. I do not want the following to happen: Judge rules that CBA has been violated, needs to be rewritten, season is cancelled until a new CBA is in place. Sorry Vilma.. My need for sanity overrides your career. I doubt it would ever get to that. Would lead to more rulings overturned and personal suits if such an event happened.

08-06-2012, 08:34 AM	#38
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Here's what my crystal ball is telling me. Injuction will be granted, suspended players get to play which gets everyone in an uproar calling for Goodell to step down because he over reacted to having his feelings hurt in the first place and Condolezza Rice is the new commisioner. SmashMouth likes this.

08-06-2012, 08:36 AM	#39
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Here's what my crystal ball is telling me. Injuction will be granted, suspended players get to play which gets everyone in an uproar calling for Goodell to step down because he over reacted to having his feelings hurt in the first place and Condolezza Rice is the new commisioner. Suspended players get to play except for Vilma who cant play because he is still injured... lol

08-06-2012, 08:42 AM	#40
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	I suspected they would try and call a truce. If they cut all suspensions in half, including the coaches then yes, this is a good deal. Both sides made mistakes. Meet in the middle and drive on. If it's just Vilma then no. Vilma should just go ahead and fight it out. It makes no sense to adjust one player's sentence.
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