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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth Hasn't the judge already done her homework prior to this hearing? One would think it might be sufficient for today. More likely, she does not want the additional notoriety. Absolutely. She also DOES NOT want the ...

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Old 08-10-2012, 11:12 AM   #141
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Hasn't the judge already done her homework prior to this hearing? One would think it might be sufficient for today. More likely, she does not want the additional notoriety.
Absolutely. She also DOES NOT want the courts butting in on each agreement like this.

She's very serious when she says she wants both parties to come to a settlement. That's an EXTREMELY subtle hint to both - there will probably be no winners on either side.

She's looking for the law to favor Vilma. It's interpretation, but it's also a reach. The NFL has a point, there is a signed agreement that has heavy legal ground.

When a judge overturns a written agreement and settles in favor of an employee, that judgement is EASY overturn-able in higher courts.... in fact a higher court may INSTANTLY grant a stay of a judgement in the court of appeals so they can hear BOTH sides of the argument.

Judge Berrigan can only offer temporary relief for Vilma and send a message to the NFL... but it's temporary. The FINAL, good solution is for a settlement to happen in this matter and both parties return to this agreement and try to learn from the errors both have made to prevent a mess like this from happening again.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:16 AM   #142
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I feel emotionally drained after 1:45 minutes of following a court room debate.

Reminds me of the Saturday night "where are we going to dinner" discussion at my house.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:17 AM   #143
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Ryan Jones@rjonesTPVilma told me that he wasn't surprised when the judge said she wanted to rule in his favor. Said he was fine with no ruling.
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Waiting for an epic Vilma tweet!
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:21 AM   #145
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The judge like nearly all of us is emotionally tied to this case. She may not be a football fan but clearly she feels there was some "unfair" practices... Her hard spot is that "unfair" is not a legal precedent to rule on....

She also knows that if she rules to quickly (much like Goodell) she risks an appellate court saying that all of the options in the NFL appeals process have not been exhausted, and over turning her decision...

Judges DO NOT like their rulings overturned... Thats like a lost fumble.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:22 AM   #146
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Don't get your hopes up; Roger will find a way to loophole himself in the right...
Not getting my hopes up at all. I am actually stunned that it has even gone this far. It's now more than a nuisance to Roger. They have to deal with this situation. It is now out of hand and everyday the scale is tipping in Vilma's favor.
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Not getting my hopes up at all. I am actually stunned that it has even gone this far. It's now more than a nuisance to Roger. They have to deal with this situation. It is now out of hand and everyday the scale is tipping in Vilma's favor.
Look, if the NFL thinks they will EVER walk out of this untouched, they're wrong.
If this goes to court, which I think the judge will do it, the discovery process alone will screw them.

Roger and the NFL's motives TODAY were exposed. The NFL admitted players are "prejudged."

Why should a player EVER go up to New York to walk into the commissioners office?
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I would look for a settlement with in the next week.... Both sides were hoping for a battle flag today and neither have one. They both want it gone.
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
I feel emotionally drained after 1:45 minutes of following a court room debate.

Reminds me of the Saturday night "where are we going to dinner" discussion at my house.
It's Friday ... time for a big boy!
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:56 AM   #150
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It seems that except for the impending season that time favors Vilma's case. At least in the eye of public opinion. There'll be a slow news day and the mainstream media'll latch onto the case. It'll be hard for the kommisar to look good in this kind of light without bringing in Gayle Sayers or someone to speak up in his behalf. Unless rg puts out a gag order to the networks that is...
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