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9 A.M. Vilma Hearing

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I haven't seen NFLN since this finished but I got the feeling they would spin it so the NFL looks like they won something today...

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Old 08-10-2012, 12:22 PM   #151
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Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing

I haven't seen NFLN since this finished but I got the feeling they would spin it so the NFL looks like they won something today
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:25 PM   #152
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I haven't seen NFLN since this finished but I got the feeling they would spin it so the NFL looks like they won something today
There were several tweets from the guys sending the courtroom feed stating that this hearing was different from the last.... ESPN, NBC, etc... were inside the courtroom instead of waiting out side.... Since there was a live feed to exactly what went on from three separate sources at least, plus the entertainment sports representatives in the room it makes a spin a lot more difficult.


If the NFLNW tries to spin it and it looks or feels different from the rest it will look very badly on the NFLNW.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:28 PM   #153
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After reflecting on how many times the Judge and NFLPA lawyers commented on "evidence not released".... Look for the NFL to start releasing what they do not have this week..... My gut says one of two things will happen before next Wed... A settlement, or the NFL will start releasing ugliness to the press.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:32 PM   #154
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Let them release all they want! They have nothing but conjecture. If this does catch steam and all falls in Vilma's favor I don't see how RG could possibly keep his job.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:35 PM   #155
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Good, I hope all this final puts enough heat on them to release the "evidence" they got. I know they were people in there but come on its how the media works now, they spin whatever they want with disregard for the truth or facts .... we've witnessed that countless times this offseason
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:36 PM   #156
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Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing

Both sides were left with a hint and bone to chew...

The judge would rather see the sides settle, but think there is a pretty good argument for the suspensions to be reduced/overturned.

Defining "Bounty" and "Incentive" could be interesting between the league and NFLPA. Every player contract with a "Performance Clause" could actually be considered a "Bounty" or "Incentive" approved by the league.

There are roster bonuses, rushing yard incentives - why not add Defensive clauses: Interceptions, Sacks, Forced Fumbles to contracts.

Would use that to show a culture when "incentives" are inherrant to the game, league and have been approved for DECADES by the league.

Bounties/Incentives/etc. have been a part of the game approved by the league and should be no suprize at an organizational level. Once the league recognizes/acknowledges that "Programs" like this will continue.

Now they will be more hidden than ever.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:44 PM   #157
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Does this put more pressure on the NFL to settle?

TX- I kinda felt the same thing- she is saying settle this and I think she is putting pressure on the NFL- by basically implying this could all blowup in your face.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:49 PM   #158
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Actually I can see how the NFL can keep it out of the Judges air space, no settlement with Vilma and still come out looking "somewhat" like good guys.


It wouldn't surprise me if the August 30th hearing falls in Vilma's favor. (Goodell will lean on the people hearing it)
Vilma get a small win and the NFL looks like it corrected course with out the aid of a Judge.


Why would the NFL do that you ask?


Because the Judge already stated in a few different ways that she will not rule before the August 30th hearing... while also showing her cards (wants to rule in favor of Vilma)...

The writing is on the wall for the NFL to make this go away before Aug 30th or she WILL rule in Vilmas favor.

I am putting money on this.

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Old 08-10-2012, 06:27 PM   #159
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It's like watching a soap opera.
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:40 PM   #160
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My money is on Vilma not taking any deal. If it was about money he would have never attempted this in the first place. His odds of winning were slim to none. Add to that the cost of hiring a prize fighter lawyer. It never was about the money.
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