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Old 08-11-2012, 10:25 AM   #11
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Re: Some Football talk, Saints vs NFC South this season and Replacement refs..

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People need to get out there and really raise a stink about the strike officials blowing calls. Not just for the Saints but for everybody. Get on Facebook, other forums, post comments under news articles, go on other message boards and talk about it with friendly fans on other teams. Because THAT is what is actually more likely to get Goodell fired,than his mishandling of Bountygate.

They even lied about how much experience these scab officials had -- what does that tell you about Goodell, and also about their evidence in Bountygate? They're willing to stretch the truth to prove their point. Point this out to people if you are ever arguing with somebody about Bounty stuff sometime. They said they had Big 10 experience and they didn't. They said one of them was a ref for a year with the "Lingerie Football League" (I know, right?) but it turns out he was canned after only half a season with them.

No one should have ANY illusion about it, the Saints are going to be playing against the refs EVERY WEEK, as well as the other team, next season. Either by them being biased against the Saints, or just plain unintentional bungling. We will have to overcome a LOT to win.


They missed a SAFETY (holding in the end zone) and a TD by Ingram. If Ingram doesn't get it on the next play, that's a swing of 9 points which could have affected the outcome, if the game had been real. They missed a low late hit on Brees' ankle during the Patriots game -- they're horrible.

What the scab refs do is, and I really noticed this happening a lot -- something happens in the play, you have three refs right there, and they all LOOK AROUND AT EACH OTHER -- waiting for the other guy to do something or make the call. None of them want to call a touchdown unless the other one signals touchdown, too. Or throw flags. Or even spot the ball. It's totally wack.
Yeah I dont like Strike Officials or Replacement Officials really.

Both IMO is just bad for the game. I think Strike officials has determined outcomes of games with shoddy calling too much for my liking, anyone remember the 2007 season and 2008 season?

Both those seasons had about a total of 4-5 games where poor officiating put a L in the loss column for the Saints. Between the Saints defense being so bad and the idea the Saints could keep any game close is what kind of did it those 2 years. Most memorable game is the Vikings and Ed Hochuli, talk about screwing the pooch, this is the same guy who prior screwed San Diego I think it was out of a game vs Denver, he basically either wont call something, or makes a call he shouldnt be making, thats the rep the strike officials have when they out there on the field.
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:53 AM   #12
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Re: Some Football talk, Saints vs NFC South this season and Replacement refs..

I'd like to comment on the poor officiating that we've seen so far this season....

But I got this memo from the league.
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Re: Some Football talk, Saints vs NFC South this season and Replacement refs..

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I'd like to comment on the poor officiating that we've seen so far this season....

But I got this memo from the league.
I got fined for talking about it...............
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Old 08-11-2012, 06:22 PM   #14
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Re: Some Football talk, Saints vs NFC South this season and Replacement refs..

I wonder how many games they will change the outcome of. Can a loss be overturned if its proven to be the refs fault? Has is ever happened.
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Re: Some Football talk, Saints vs NFC South this season and Replacement refs..

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Can a loss be overturned if its proven to be the refs fault? Has is ever happened.
Games have been won or loss due to bad calls and no not one has ever been overturned
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:12 PM   #16
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Re: Some Football talk, Saints vs NFC South this season and Replacement refs..

Strong division.

Atlanta - I think they're going to have one of their best offensive statistical seasons in a long time. They're going to open up the offense and start flinging the rock around. Lots of talented skill positions on offense and should actually be a fun team to watch for non-Saints fans.

Defensively, their DL is rock solid and has the name players to dominate. As of now they have no MLB and Witherspoon is the only player of note. Secondary looks stout. One thing to make note of is that Nolan's defenses has always had good rush linebackers... which no one on that roster fits the bill. Regardless, should be the Saints main obstacle in the division.

10-6 looks about right but I wouldn't put 11-5 past them.

Carolina - If Cam Newton doesn't have a sophomore slump, they can make a lot of noise. No matter how much one dislikes Steve Smith, he's very difficult to stop. They have one of the best 1-2 punches in the league at running back and added a versatile touchdown machine at fullback. Greg Olson was a great addition as Cam(got to give the man his props), for a young quarterback, does a good job utilizing his TE's. The question marks they have on offense is the right side of their offensive line and lack of proven talent behind Steve Smith on the outside.

Defensively they have a stud in Charles Johnson on the front line and a very good LB core... although frequently injured. If those two tackles can plug the middle effectively, you're going to see their linebackers flying all over the field making big plays. The secondary is average and Gamble has been slowly regressing throughout the past few years. I would say Godfrey is their best player back there. If their front 7 can't get consistent pressure, they're going to have trouble stopping people from throwing the ball all over them.

I can see a 9-7 season if Cam Newton can come close to mirroring last season's production.

Tampa Bay - Their season hinders largely on Josh Freeman. Who are we going to see? Is he going to be that young quarterback whom everyone thought was going to eventually evolve into an elite quarterback or the mis-firing jitterbug from last year? Jim Harbaugh had a lot of success transitioning from the college ranks but he also had a great pedigree. Schiano has a couple of head cases on his team and pretty much brought a college staff to surround him. He has a lot of work cut out for him. Talent wise, they're doing pretty well for themselves. Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams are two talented wide outs and their backups have some upside as well. While a big headcase, Blount is talented and they brought in Martin with their first round pick. The addition of Nicks solidifies a solid interior line with some question marks on the outside. Old man Dallas Clark should still be an upgrade over Winslow.

Defensively going across the board, they have a lot of young talented players on the team. With that said, I'd like to emphasis young. Young equals inexperience and as I mentioned earlier, a coaching staff from the collegiate ranks. How are they going to mold these young players? It may take a few years before these players start making their marks. And as if Blount wasn't enough on the offensive side of the ball, they have Pac Man Jr. roaming the secondary. Getting this unit to gel is the main key... and they're not ready yet.

6-10... just to many question marks.

As far as the refs are concerned, it'll all get worked out. I'm not concerned.
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:20 PM   #17
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Strong division.

Atlanta - I think they're going to have one of their best offensive statistical seasons in a long time. They're going to open up the offense and start flinging the rock around. Lots of talented skill positions on offense and should actually be a fun team to watch for non-Saints fans.

Defensively, their DL is rock solid and has the name players to dominate. As of now they have no MLB and Witherspoon is the only player of note. Secondary looks stout. One thing to make note of is that Nolan's defenses has always had good rush linebackers... which no one on that roster fits the bill. Regardless, should be the Saints main obstacle in the division.

10-6 looks about right but I wouldn't put 11-5 past them.

Carolina - If Cam Newton doesn't have a sophomore slump, they can make a lot of noise. No matter how much one dislikes Steve Smith, he's very difficult to stop. They have one of the best 1-2 punches in the league at running back and added a versatile touchdown machine at fullback. Greg Olson was a great addition as Cam(got to give the man his props), for a young quarterback, does a good job utilizing his TE's. The question marks they have on offense is the right side of their offensive line and lack of proven talent behind Steve Smith on the outside.

Defensively they have a stud in Charles Johnson on the front line and a very good LB core... although frequently injured. If those two tackles can plug the middle effectively, you're going to see their linebackers flying all over the field making big plays. The secondary is average and Gamble has been slowly regressing throughout the past few years. I would say Godfrey is their best player back there. If their front 7 can't get consistent pressure, they're going to have trouble stopping people from throwing the ball all over them.

I can see a 9-7 season if Cam Newton can come close to mirroring last season's production.

Tampa Bay - Their season hinders largely on Josh Freeman. Who are we going to see? Is he going to be that young quarterback whom everyone thought was going to eventually evolve into an elite quarterback or the mis-firing jitterbug from last year? Jim Harbaugh had a lot of success transitioning from the college ranks but he also had a great pedigree. Schiano has a couple of head cases on his team and pretty much brought a college staff to surround him. He has a lot of work cut out for him. Talent wise, they're doing pretty well for themselves. Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams are two talented wide outs and their backups have some upside as well. While a big headcase, Blount is talented and they brought in Martin with their first round pick. The addition of Nicks solidifies a solid interior line with some question marks on the outside. Old man Dallas Clark should still be an upgrade over Winslow.

Defensively going across the board, they have a lot of young talented players on the team. With that said, I'd like to emphasis young. Young equals inexperience and as I mentioned earlier, a coaching staff from the collegiate ranks. How are they going to mold these young players? It may take a few years before these players start making their marks. And as if Blount wasn't enough on the offensive side of the ball, they have Pac Man Jr. roaming the secondary. Getting this unit to gel is the main key... and they're not ready yet.

6-10... just to many question marks.

As far as the refs are concerned, it'll all get worked out. I'm not concerned.
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New Orleans - There's only one real question mark on offense and that is Sean Payton. While he has been suspended the entire year, he left behind a well oiled machine in the hands of his two most trusted sidekicks... Pete Carmichael and Drew Brees. In the handful of games which Carmichael called the plays for last season, the Saints average over 30 points per game. Drew Brees has been one of the best quarterbacks in the league for over the past decade. With a 6th ranked rushing offense in the league, arguably the top TE, an underrated receiving core... this unit is virtually unstoppable. The loss of Carl Nicks was nullified with the addition of an All Pro himself in Ben Grubbs. The Saints should still boast on of the top offensive lines in the league and any deficiencies should be masked by Brees' outstanding quarterback play.

Defensively I don't think I can break it down. I'm such a Spags homer and Harper supporter(which goes against the mainstream perception of him) that it will color me bias when grading our unit. I will just say one thing...

I THINK WE'LL WRECK HAVOC ON THE MOFOS!!!! BEWARE... WE'RE COMING TO GET YOU!!!

11-5 sounds about right. And if Atlanta manages the same record, we'll have the tiebreaker and the division will be ours.
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New Orleans - There's only one real question mark on offense and that is Sean Payton. While he has been suspended the entire year, he left behind a well oiled machine in the hands of his two most trusted sidekicks... Pete Carmichael and Drew Brees. In the handful of games which Carmichael called the plays for last season, the Saints average over 30 points per game. Drew Brees has been one of the best quarterbacks in the league for over the past decade. With a 6th ranked rushing offense in the league, arguably the top TE, an underrated receiving core... this unit is virtually unstoppable. The loss of Carl Nicks was nullified with the addition of an All Pro himself in Ben Grubbs. The Saints should still boast on of the top offensive lines in the league and any deficiencies should be masked by Brees' outstanding quarterback play.

Defensively I don't think I can break it down. I'm such a Spags homer and Harper supporter(which goes against the mainstream perception of him) that it will color me bias when grading our unit. I will just say one thing... 7

I THINK WE'LL WRECK HAVOC ON THE MOFOS!!!! BEWARE... WE'RE COMING TO GET YOU!!!

11-5 sounds about right. And if Atlanta manages the same record, we'll have the tiebreaker and the division will be ours.
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If our offense runs true to form and our defense goes from crap to even mediocre, then the deciding factor will be the close calls from the head coach. If whoever's in charge gets'em right then the Clowns won't even get their annual token playoff invitation at 11-5.
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