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QBREES9 08-12-2012 09:47 AM

More Support for the Saints
 
While Jonathan Vilma’s immediate future is being dealt with in the courtroom, a former New Orleans Saints secondary coach says there was no “bounty” system with the team.
Dennis Allen is now the Raiders’ head coach, and he said on Jim Rome’s show, “We obviously had an incentive program. It’s unfortunate the things that have gone down there. I’ve got a lot of great friends there. I really respect those players, those coaches, and that’s some of the best memories I’ve got in the National Football League.”



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Rugby Saint II 08-12-2012 10:56 AM

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I'm still surprised that the opposition hasn't raided all of our coaches.

pumpkindriver 08-12-2012 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 427018)
I'm still surprised that the opposition hasn't raided all of our coaches.

So am I, but glad they haven't. Although I sure was sad to see our receivers coach go to Tulane, but I knew a couple years ago he was in line for bigger and better things.

NOLA54 08-12-2012 12:31 PM

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Of course there wasn't a bounty program. Incentive? Yes! Obviously this was not investigated objectively. The Saints will win this battle with Goodell.

QBREES9 08-12-2012 12:33 PM

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Why do you need incentive when you get paid MILLIONS !

Seer1 08-12-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 427018)
I'm still surprised that the opposition hasn't raided all of our coaches.

You only leave a place when it's to your benefit or when you're asked to. Keep'em happy Benson!

Boutte 08-12-2012 12:51 PM

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Not one player or coach who was with the team for any season from 06 on has said that there was a bounty system. Even though the NFL claims that there have been confessions not one person has publicly stated that there was any such program.

Halo 08-12-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 427035)
Why do you need incentive when you get paid MILLIONS !

I think most people misunderstand this part.
Why when I worked for a former employer, did I participate in incentive plans year round?

Because although the job was sweet, although the pay was great, it was a JOB and incentives lifted quota's company wide. Those who did NOT participate were always slightly behind.

It was like a game within a game. The prizes? Trips, flights, PC's, paid days off.
During Christmas, if you won the quota contest in your district, the prizes were substantial, as in a check for $3,000.

People would move fast, competition was tight but friendly among employees.

Tobias-Reiper 08-12-2012 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by QBREES9 (Post 427035)
Why do you need incentive when you get paid MILLIONS !


You still don't get it.

The pool wasn't about giving players incentive to make plays. I guarantee you no player went into the game thing he could make an extra grand if he hurt someone, or got a sack. The whole thing was more about bragging rights than anything else.

The Dude 08-12-2012 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NOLA54 (Post 427033)
Of course there wasn't a bounty program. Incentive? Yes! Obviously this was not investigated objectively. The Saints will win this battle with Goodell.

There is no way in hell the Saints win this battle.

TXGSP 08-12-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 427054)
There is no way in hell the Saints win this battle.

At this point it more a battle for power and fairness. The Saints may not win the WAR as far as an "incentive based pay" program, but there are many battles they may/should win.

This is now a battle that could change how things are done in the NFL. It effects much more than just the Saints organization - everyone involves recognizes this one point.

Power will ultimately be the reason why both sides will continue to fight, but there is one thing Vilma brings to the table no other party has interest in - Reputation.

Neither side wants to give up power - real or perceived.

The wild card in this situation is Vilma.

saintsfan1976 08-12-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 427049)
You still don't get it.

The pool wasn't about giving players incentive to make plays. I guarantee you no player went into the game thing he could make an extra grand if he hurt someone, or got a sack. The whole thing was more about bragging rights than anything else.

It's more like; how do you motivate guys that already make millions of dollars?

Create "incentives" or "games within the game" to keep their edge.

Like Vitt said - this team is being punished for the spoken word, not the action.

saintsfan1976 08-12-2012 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 427054)
There is no way in hell the Saints win this battle.

Wrong again.

the NFL is trying to look like good guys at the expense of our team.

They screwed with the wrong franchise.

CheramieIII 08-12-2012 06:35 PM

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So what if they paid them bonuses for it. It.s their freakin job. God better make the deal before the deal makes him


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