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TXGSP 08-22-2012 09:44 PM

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Looks like the NFL is getting pressure from their Insurance company over the brain injury lawsuits. Evidently the insurance comapny doesn't want to share the costs and arguing against having to "foot the bill" for the lawsuits.

Travelers sues NFL over brain injury lawsuits
Travelers sues NFL over brain injury lawsuits - Yahoo! Sports

Appears the League may be fighting the player's brain injury lawsuits on two fronts. The League apparently files suit last week against some of their other insurance companies over the same issue. I guess travelers decided to use the same tactic against the league.

They also had a loss on an injury to a punter...

Court: Ex-NFL punter eligible for workers comp
Court: Ex-NFL punter eligible for workers comp - Yahoo! Sports

The Dude 08-22-2012 09:45 PM

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Good for them.

Halo 08-22-2012 09:53 PM

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  1. OK so they're being sued by Vilma (who looks likely to win)
  2. The NFL is screwing the refs (don't want to pay or support them)
  3. Talking about having 1 ref on the field, rest done by review booth
  4. Now they're being sued for LYING about their studies conducted on concussions years ago that they CONCEALED!

This is all merely the current B.S. going on... and trolls INSIST GOODELL IS GOOD FOR FOOTBALL??

Hey Roger, GUESS WHAT?
http://markosun.files.wordpress.com/...oltergeist.jpg
No matter what you do, the truth about why you INVENTED Bountygate is coming, AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT!!!

saintfan 08-22-2012 09:59 PM

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Roger has been an amazing failure.

The Dude 08-22-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 430527)
  1. OK so they're being sued by Vilma (who looks likely to win)
  2. The NFL is screwing the refs (don't want to pay or support them)
  3. Talking about having 1 ref on the field, rest done by review booth
  4. Now they're being sued for LYING about their studies conducted on concussions years ago that they CONCEALED!

This is all merely the current B.S. going on... and trolls INSIST GOODELL IS GOOD FOR FOOTBALL??

Hey Roger, GUESS WHAT?
http://markosun.files.wordpress.com/...oltergeist.jpg
No matter what you do, the truth about why you INVENTED Bountygate is coming, AND YOU CAN'T STOP IT!!!

Looks like Goodell and the NFL really shiit the bed this time.

Halo 08-22-2012 10:21 PM

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How is this possible...
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An NFL spokesman says the league hasn't seen the lawsuit and couldn't comment.
Yet the Judge is already hearing arguments on this case.... http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/ima...s/shrug_n2.gif
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Judge John Eldridge wrote in the opinion. ''Ample evidence was presented to show that Tupa suffered a compensable accidental injury during the course of his employment.''
And where have we heard this one before??http://www.thedawgpound.com/wp-conte...ng_smiley2.gif
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A portion of the collective bargaining agreement does deal specifically with the filing of worker's compensation claims.

Halo 08-22-2012 10:35 PM

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So glad to see 30 people trolling this thread who have nothing to say....

EVERYONE MUST APPROVE OF THE JOB GOODELL IS DOING!!!
WHY DOESN'T EVERYONE JUST STAND UP, RAISE THEIR RIGHT ARM AND SAY
HERR FUHRER
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TXGSP 08-22-2012 10:50 PM

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What's interesting is how the makeup of the league could effect the player's cases.

My understanding is the teams are private businesses, except maybe for the Packers - who sold shares. They operate under the umbrella of the league, so ultimately the value of every team in the NFL could be devalued depending on the outcome of the lawsuits.

Not sure what type of shares the Packers sold, but the Packers do have some responsibility to their shareholders. The other teams do not have that type of responsibility due to ownership.

At some point we will find out how the owners are going to address everything going on because it will eventually effect their bank accounts. The profit sharing between the league, teams, players, etc could be involved in any settlement, judgement...

All this eventually will either completely change or end the game...

WELCOME to the NFFL
National Flag Football League

CharityMike 08-22-2012 10:55 PM

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Dude I will be the first one jumping up and down and talking sh!t the second this red face bafoon is knocked out. Until then, I am tired of talking about him. What else is there really to say that hasn't been said about this god less *****?

Nobody gives a crap what us in the whodat nation think. They think we are bias and not smart enough to look past our own pisstivity for what happened this offseason. Everything is coming together slowly but surely. I am just going to sit back with a smile on my face and enjoy watching the weasel squirm!! :bng:

Halo 08-22-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 430539)
Nobody gives a crap what us in the whodat nation think.

That's not true at all.
Look, like you, I'm exhausted but IT'S BEEN HITTING gOD-HELL IN THE NUTZ!
He's getting bad PR all over the place.
Every post you make here legitimizes this thread more and more.
Spiders from Google and Yahoo pick it up.
Soon when you Google "goodell" or "goodell lawsuit" this thread picks it up, and BELIEVE ME, THE PRESS AND GOODELL READ THIS STUFF!!!!

QBREES9 08-22-2012 11:06 PM

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If you google failure a picture of Roger Goodell come up. As well as George W Bush. Born in New Haven Ct at Yale New Haven hospital. Dam Idiot.

saintfan 08-22-2012 11:12 PM

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Many of us have been preaching against Roger, even since before all this bounty nonsense, because his method is hard handed and he leads as if he is beyond reproach. I think it's pretty clear Roger does NOT know what is in the best interest of the league. He seems to think slapping players with fines and suspensions and proclaiming that the NFL cares about safety is enough. He's been doing this since his first Congressional hearing and his mantra hasn't changed.

His failure, in my opinion, is his arrogance and his inability to see this is about people as much as it is about money. The NFL was far too heavy-handed when dealing with the players during the negotiations for the latest CBA. The leagues insistence that Roger remain all-powerful is evidence of it's agenda in my opinion.

The NFL had the opportunity to do the right thing a long time ago and might even have reached some sort of settlement with the players and their lawsuit but instead, under Roger's guidance, has chosen the cover-up and catch-up route, but it's far more transparent than he ever imagined, because he too damned arrogant to see it.

For the sake of the NFL and for the game we all love, Roger simply must go. Every time he acts it seems to blow up in his face. At some point (and I think we're beyond it), this trend becomes a real problem and the owners are simply going to HAVE to act. Sooner rather than later is my take...

Halo 08-22-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 430548)
For the sake of the NFL and for the game we all love, Roger simply must go. Every time he acts it seems to blow up in his face. At some point (and I think we're beyond it), this trend becomes a real problem and the owners are simply going to HAVE to act. Sooner rather than later is my take...

:itsgood: FANTASTIC POST SAINTFAN! :itsgood:


HEY ROGER! YOU'RE...
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|Mitch| 08-22-2012 11:22 PM

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Do the owners vote yearly or how does his "term" in office work?

saintfan 08-22-2012 11:25 PM

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Utah_Saint 08-22-2012 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 430554)
Do the owners vote yearly or how does his "term" in office work?

He just got a contract extension through March 2019. No terms were disclosed.

|Mitch| 08-22-2012 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 430559)
He just got a contract extension through March 2019. No terms were disclosed.

Through 2019?! :doh:

Halo 08-22-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 430560)
Through 2019?! :doh:

Believe me, if the HEAT gets too hot, and the NFL needs to save face because it's FACE-MAN RG made too many power plays, they can FIRE HIM!

Remember, he's just the front man for the owners who are the real financial backers behind the NFL. So keep the HEAT COMING!

|Mitch| 08-22-2012 11:45 PM

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If they don't fire him before 2019, I guess we'll see just how powder-puff Roger can make the NFL

Utah_Saint 08-23-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 430563)
If they don't fire him before 2019, I guess we'll see just how powder-puff Roger can make the NFL

I agree with Halo. He can be fired and with as many fires as the NFL has burning right now, you know there are at least one or two owners that can't be pleased with the way things are going.

The refs strike might seem like no big deal right now but if it keeps up during the regular season, the average viewer will have the impression that he's getting a lower quality product than he's used to. That's why the memo was sent out NOT to talk about how bad the replacements are doing. Every percentage point of people NOT watching or buying merchandise is potentially millions of dollars. The refs claim this can all be settled for 1.5 million dollars annually. Goodell is playing a game of chicken with the owners money. If he wins, well that's what he's paid to do.

If Goodell loses the Vilma case, it will weaken the power the NFL has in the CBA by allowing all players, that get a serious punishment from the commissioner, the chance to sue in court. And lets the government into NFL matters, no way the owners want that. Not to mention Goodell will come off looking like a total jackwagon after his personal, and very public, which hunt in New Orleans of Saints players. It will definitely undermine his, and his offices, credibility in the future.

2,000 former players are suing the NFL. The commissioner is responsible to lessen the financial impact to the owners. If there can't be a deal worked out and a court rules in favor of the players, and awards a huge dollar amount, then, I'm sure, in the eyes of most of the owners, Goodell didn't do his job. And now the insurance company's suit could lead to the owners taking complete liability for the concussion lawsuits. They have the potential of losing Billions of dollars.

You know his bosses have to be keeping close tabs on how these things play out.

SloMotion 08-23-2012 05:46 AM

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If a couple of these lawsuits go against the NFL and it starts costing the owners serious money, rest assured Roger will be the 'fall-guy' ... just as he tried to make New Orleans the 'fall-guy' in his endeavor to end pay-for-performance in the league ... ah, sweet irony ... perhaps in the future we'll refer to it as 'Goodell-gate' or 'Roger-gate', :mrgreen:.

Seer1 08-23-2012 06:43 AM

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I don't know guys. Those of you who have read my posts know how I feel about the kommisar, but if you think he's bad, try dealing with insurance companies. These things take your money then spend it on 1. themselves, 2. commercials and 3. figuring out how to weasel out of paying you what you've been paying your premiums for. If anything wrecks professional football, it won't be roger Stalin. We'll survive him. It'll be insurance companies.

TXGSP 08-23-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 430586)
I don't know guys. Those of you who have read my posts know how I feel about the kommisar, but if you think he's bad, try dealing with insurance companies. These things take your money then spend it on 1. themselves, 2. commercials and 3. figuring out how to weasel out of paying you what you've been paying your premiums for. If anything wrecks professional football, it won't be roger Stalin. We'll survive him. It'll be insurance companies.

You may be correct about the insurance companies, but ultimately the reason the league and insurance companies are winding up in court are decisions made by the league.

The league basically brought this upon themselves.

The insurance companies will protect themselves even if it comes to dropping coverage on the league. Wonder if any other insurance company would cover the league then, and what would the premiums cost...

Shoe. 08-23-2012 10:07 AM

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I'm very curious as to exactly what Benson and ol' roger Dodger were talking about in their most recently publicized meeting.

Settlement?
Threats?
Watch your @$$ rog, cause things don't look so good?

I thought some sort of news would have been leaked or something, but it looks like Tom talked, rog listened, and then....nothing

Halo 08-23-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoe. (Post 430620)
I'm very curious as to exactly what Benson and ol' roger Dodger were talking about in their most recently publicized meeting.

Settlement?
Threats?
Watch your @$$ rog, cause things don't look so good?

I thought some sort of news would have been leaked or something, but it looks like Tom talked, rog listened, and then....nothing

I've never heard of an owner heading up to the NFL's NY office for a sit down with the Commish that's just "coffee." The mere fact that the NFL propaganda machine would not confirm the meeting existed tells me Roger got "talked to" and it was probably pretty unexpected. Benson wanted to put the man on the spot, and probably succeeded.

Goodell won't act knee jerked from the meeting so as not to show his hand (and what was discussed in the meeting), but I have a feeling we'll know soon enough.

SloMotion 08-23-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 430586)
I don't know guys. Those of you who have read my posts know how I feel about the kommisar, but if you think he's bad, try dealing with insurance companies. These things take your money then spend it on 1. themselves, 2. commercials and 3. figuring out how to weasel out of paying you what you've been paying your premiums for. If anything wrecks professional football, it won't be roger Stalin. We'll survive him. It'll be insurance companies.

That is an excellent point about the insurance companies, they're unscrupulous ... I'm gonna' have to give this some more thought, but in the meantime, I'm sticking with the general consensus that Goodell is to blame for everything, :mrgreen:.

OldMaid 08-24-2012 12:00 AM

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Our dear friend , Halo, has a good post there on pg. 1. I agree with him...asnd Slomo and others here....hmmmm .Very interesting story here.
:)

jlouhill 08-24-2012 05:46 AM

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Thank you Halo for saying what me and some others have been thinking. I know we are all weary of this whole fiasco but I too am sick of other fans and the media piling on us like we should just shut up and take our medicine because we got caught. This is like nothing I've ever seen in sports. It's obvious that Goodell is a power hungry individual who gets off on throwing that power around. At first everyone was against us. But with each passing day it has become apparent that RG has overstepped his bounds and more and more people are seeing that. Normally I don't care what other fans think of us or our team but I've mentioned on here before that they need to be very concerned with the power the CBA has given RG because he has shown that he will stop at nothing to lower the boom on anyone just to try and head off these lawsuits. But everyday we see where this whole thing is festering and is about to blow up in his face. At first I liked the way Goodell went after the thugs of the sport for their off field antics. But when he turned his attention to hard hitting football with the excessive fines and suspensions and now that he has total and complete power I think he was just chomping at the bits to put that power on display simply because he now has the first, second, and last word on the issue. We just happened to be the first one's who got in his way. I hope this whole thing gets so wrapped around the axle on him that he can't even begin to get it untangled. Goodell has opened up a can of worms the likes of which the sports world has never seen and I really hope it costs him his job.

skymike 08-24-2012 06:59 AM

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How much would it suck to be remembered as the guy who was driving
the NFL, when it CRASHED!

homerj07 08-25-2012 06:58 PM

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It's a strange way to run a business


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