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dizzle88 08-26-2012 04:02 AM

Questions from texans vs saints game
 
I haven't watched the replay yet and will be watching it when I get home as I didn't get to watch the game, just have a couple questions

Did our tackling look any better?
From the stats it looked like our D line ran riot, we had like 5 sacks how did they look?

Any other info that anybody noticed from the game is welcome too because I'll be looking for what you point out when I watch the game

TheOak 08-26-2012 05:33 AM

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The Texans first drive right down our throat and the rest of the game are not that similar...

Turnovers were rampant... on both sides

To be honest ... at about 4 minutes into the game I looked at the screen and ask WTF is this? Then things settled down and looked a lot better.


Just so you dont choke if you are eating when you are watching, Shanle made a tackle for a loss... He actually looked like he was 6'9" 290 and ran a 3.5s 40 yd when he made that tackle.

dizzle88 08-26-2012 06:42 AM

Re: Questions from texans vs saints game
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 431428)
The Texans first drive right down our throat and the rest of the game are not that similar...

Turnovers were rampant... on both sides

To be honest ... at about 4 minutes into the game I looked at the screen and ask WTF is this? Then things settled down and looked a lot better.


Just so you dont choke if you are eating when you are watching, Shanle made a tackle for a loss... He actually looked like he was 6'9" 290 and ran a 3.5s 40 yd when he made that tackle.

Thanks for the warning regarding shanles tackle, I'll still probably end up spitting drink everywhere when I see it lmao

Yeah heard about joe Morgan's fumble, ivorys fumble and galette scoring, can't have the fumbles happening to us often this season

TheOak 08-26-2012 06:54 AM

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I know every one says Ivory is fragile.... After you see the hit he took that caused the fumble ... you'll be amazed he walks away... Reminiscent of the hit PT took against the 49ers in the playoffs yeast year.

I still say Ivory was down. It looked to me more like collapsing on the ground is what caused the ball to come out.

Saint_LB 08-26-2012 07:06 AM

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I know that some of you old-timers here are getting tired of hearing me complaing about this...but...never stopped me before...so...(for you Danno)...

Did I ever tell you that I hate preseason in it's current format? 4 games? Really? That's not 1, not 2, not 3...but 4 (FOUR) games that don't count.

People say...well, there would be so many more injuries. What? What about guys who get injured during games that don't count? What about that?

...and then people go on and on about the game. How can you do that? It didn't count. It wasn't being played the same way as a regular season game would be played. How can you make any intelligent observations at all? You know that most teams keep it vanilla. Oh, boy!

But it will shorten their careers! Give me a break. They make sooo much money...they don't need long careers. Some guys made more money in one year than I have made my whole life...and it was their first year.

The thing that puzzles me the most is the fact that I am in the minority here, it seems. That I just can't understand at all. Some people must actually enjoy this. It's like the NFL is saying, "OK...the game, played properly, is played like this. However, we are gonna play the 1st 4 games another way...and then we will get around to the real thing later." I don't get it.

/rant

papz 08-26-2012 07:41 AM

Re: Questions from texans vs saints game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 431426)
I haven't watched the replay yet and will be watching it when I get home as I didn't get to watch the game, just have a couple questions

Did our tackling look any better?
From the stats it looked like our D line ran riot, we had like 5 sacks how did they look?

Any other info that anybody noticed from the game is welcome too because I'll be looking for what you point out when I watch the game

I don't recall tackling being bad... however, there was a few blown coverages. I believe a majority of our sacks were in the second half from our 2nd/3rd units. 1st unit DL struggled imo.

Besides the fumble(he was fighting for extra yards), Chris Ivory looked great.

Morgan had a nice game... might have sealed up a roster spot.

Chase Daniel put some nice zip on the ball on quite a few throws. Dangerous but well placed.

Overall I thought it was a good showing against another potential Superbowl contender. First half provided lots of points and excitement. Good way to finish our only "real" preseason game.

Seer1 08-26-2012 10:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 431439)
I know that some of you old-timers here are getting tired of hearing me complaing about this...but...never stopped me before...so...(for you Danno)...

Did I ever tell you that I hate preseason in it's current format? 4 games? Really? That's not 1, not 2, not 3...but 4 (FOUR) games that don't count.

People say...well, there would be so many more injuries. What? What about guys who get injured during games that don't count? What about that?

...and then people go on and on about the game. How can you do that? It didn't count. It wasn't being played the same way as a regular season game would be played. How can you make any intelligent observations at all? You know that most teams keep it vanilla. Oh, boy!

But it will shorten their careers! Give me a break. They make sooo much money...they don't need long careers. Some guys made more money in one year than I have made my whole life...and it was their first year.

The thing that puzzles me the most is the fact that I am in the minority here, it seems. That I just can't understand at all. Some people must actually enjoy this. It's like the NFL is saying, "OK...the game, played properly, is played like this. However, we are gonna play the 1st 4 games another way...and then we will get around to the real thing later." I don't get it.

/rant

Haven't watched it yet either, but from the sounds of it we could use about three-four more preseason games to get our tackling thing in order....

Boutte 08-26-2012 11:21 AM

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Chase Daniel looked great! He could take us deep into the playoffs if we had go with him. He was decisive, and cool in the pocket.

Mardigras9 08-27-2012 08:53 AM

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Preseason, the amount of fumbles was really not surprising.

darstep 08-27-2012 01:44 PM

Re: Questions from texans vs saints game
 
Not really playing full speed, full contact football until gameday seems to show,
especially at the crunch point. Other than that we looked good.
Once we settle into the season, week 3 or 4, we will be tough to deal with.
Once the defense gets it bearings, we are going to take names.

Tobias-Reiper 08-27-2012 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 431439)

...and then people go on and on about the game. How can you do that? It didn't count. It wasn't being played the same way as a regular season game would be played. How can you make any intelligent observations at all? You know that most teams keep it vanilla. Oh, boy!

/rant

It may not be a "real" game, it may not count in the standings, but still, I want to see tendencies. Especially this season, when there is a completely new defensive system. Watching these preseason games, I can see things that I have not seen in NO in a while, like controlled blitzes, players wrapping their arms around the opponent instead of launching shoulder first, CBs actually contesting balls from the WRs...

And when you think about it, would you want to go into the regular season with a new defensive scheme without trying it out first, being able to evaluate which players do better on the new scheme? Or would you want Spagnuolo just to guess who may or may not be a good fit on his scheme and go with that Week 1?

And how about the offense? Would you think it is enough for the offense to just practice against the same scheme for 1-2 months, and go straight from that into week 1?

Without preseason games, the Saints would not have Lance Moore, or PT, or Ivory, or De La Puente, or Abdul-Quddus, or Galette...

skymike 08-27-2012 04:12 PM

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naaa, LB, you are free to tell it like you see it. I, of course, love preseason,
like women enjoy the chase. Its like singing Christmas songs before Christmas.

AlaskaSaints 08-27-2012 09:15 PM

Re: Questions from texans vs saints game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 431428)
The Texans first drive right down our throat and the rest of the game are not that similar...

Turnovers were rampant... on both sides

To be honest ... at about 4 minutes into the game I looked at the screen and ask WTF is this? Then things settled down and looked a lot better.


Just so you dont choke if you are eating when you are watching, Shanle made a tackle for a loss... He actually looked like he was 6'9" 290 and ran a 3.5s 40 yd when he made that tackle.

AlaskaSaints spits coffee all over his computer... out his NOSE!

LOL

Alaska

Budsdrinker 08-27-2012 10:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by skymike (Post 431921)
naaa, LB, you are free to tell it like you see it. I, of course, love preseason,
like women enjoy the chase. Its like singing Christmas songs before Christmas.

Then why didn't you go to the game????

Budsdrinker 08-27-2012 10:06 PM

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For the most part, the team looked good. 2 costly turnovers but the defense and ST got turnovers back plus a score. Missed assignments by the defense a few times but you did have 2 non starting LB's playing with Casillas playing the middle which is not his position. Oh and by the way the refs sucked again.

Saint_LB 08-28-2012 06:53 AM

Re: Questions from texans vs saints game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper (Post 431881)
It may not be a "real" game, it may not count in the standings, but still, I want to see tendencies. Especially this season, when there is a completely new defensive system. Watching these preseason games, I can see things that I have not seen in NO in a while, like controlled blitzes, players wrapping their arms around the opponent instead of launching shoulder first, CBs actually contesting balls from the WRs...

And when you think about it, would you want to go into the regular season with a new defensive scheme without trying it out first, being able to evaluate which players do better on the new scheme? Or would you want Spagnuolo just to guess who may or may not be a good fit on his scheme and go with that Week 1?

And how about the offense? Would you think it is enough for the offense to just practice against the same scheme for 1-2 months, and go straight from that into week 1?

Without preseason games, the Saints would not have Lance Moore, or PT, or Ivory, or De La Puente, or Abdul-Quddus, or Galette...

You know...I don't care how long they practice before the season starts. I don't care how many people they play, or scrimmage, before they start for real. The only thing I'm complaining about is having to sit down and watch a game on TV that doesn't count. They know I won't be able to resist watching, but with a different type of interest than if it were for real. I just wish I didn't have to agonize through a month of football that doesn't count and stop having to worry that somebody important is going to go down before they start doing it for real.

SaintsBro 08-28-2012 09:50 AM

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You don't have to watch on TV if you don't want to. No one is forcing you, man.

I kind of dig that last preseason game, because it's like a window into a weird alternate universe where Drew Brees was never born and the Saints still suck and the team is still like a hapless comedy act. It brings back memories of when THAT'S what the Saints looked like for real, and keeps me humble. Also it's a huge amount of drama, to watch these young guys play their hearts out and struggle to make the team, with potentially so much future money and fame on the line for them, everything they've worked for and ever dreamed about. A lot of these guys just get one shot at their dreams, and that can be very real to watch.

The other thing that's nice about preseason is that they are good games to take young kids to. They get to see Drew Brees and get the vibe of a football game, see the team run out the tunnel and be introduced and warm up and stuff, but then when the kid gets tired they can go home to bed around halftime, and nobody cares about leaving early. One half with a 7 PM kickoff, it's like the perfect length for little kids. I got hooked on it by being taken to preseason games at Tulane Stadium as a little guy.

Tobias-Reiper 08-28-2012 11:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint_LB (Post 432054)
You know...I don't care how long they practice before the season starts. I don't care how many people they play, or scrimmage, before they start for real. The only thing I'm complaining about is having to sit down and watch a game on TV that doesn't count. They know I won't be able to resist watching, but with a different type of interest than if it were for real. I just wish I didn't have to agonize through a month of football that doesn't count and stop having to worry that somebody important is going to go down before they start doing it for real.

I know what you mean .

Rugby Saint II 08-28-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Questions from texans vs saints game
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by darstep (Post 431870)
Not really playing full speed, full contact football until gameday seems to show,
especially at the crunch point. Other than that we looked good.
Once we settle into the season, week 3 or 4, we will be tough to deal with.
Once the defense gets it bearings, we are going to take names.

The problem is that if we start out losing a couple of close games because of our defense we might have a hard time fighting back without Sean Payton. I want to start out strong and build momentum.:biggun:

skymike 08-29-2012 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 432000)
Then why didn't you go to the game????

budget dude, budget....
saving it for the regular season. The Texans game is always on every tv here.

See you at the Redskins game!


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