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TheOak 08-28-2012 07:07 AM

Patrick Robinson
 
Apparently the 15 lbs of dreads were weighing him down, restricting his vision, and or hearing... Since he cut them he has been a new man.. After seeing the Texans game twice and the way he was in A. Johnson's face, causing nearly every pass to be contested...


I am going to go Wayyyyyyyyy out on a limb with a prediction this year.


Patrick Robinson - The 2012 Darren Sharper! I am going 8 interceptions this year for Robinson.

Danno 08-28-2012 07:45 AM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
My expectations for him are off the charts. I expect him to make the probowl, or be on one of those "who got snubbed" lists, barring injury of course.

lee909 08-28-2012 08:20 AM

I was impressed with how he handled Johnson the other night.

TheDeuce 08-28-2012 09:19 AM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Interesting thread... Robinson has been a disappointment in my eyes. Don't see the "it factor" you guys are seeing. I see a decent cover corner who can't tackle.

dizzle88 08-28-2012 09:38 AM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDeuce (Post 432092)
Interesting thread... Robinson has been a disappointment in my eyes. Don't see the "it factor" you guys are seeing. I see a decent cover corner who can't tackle.

Because out of all our DB's pat has showed he can catch and anyone that can stay step for step with Andre Johnson like that, nearly making 2 picks against him is worth getting excited about

lee909 08-28-2012 09:42 AM

Im expecting all of our backs to make an improvement this season.
With Bunkley in the line and Hicks showing great potential that should hopefully help the Ends to get more pressure on the QBs.
Far too often we gave QBs too much time and nobody is going to keep receivers locked up that long.

That my untrained eyes opinion anyway.

Utah_Saint 08-28-2012 10:35 AM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Robinson had some pretty good numbers last year too.

He had the 7th best QB rating against at 59.3

Conversely Porter had on of the highest completion percentages against last year. (Lots of things factor into that though. While it's not good, it's not as bad as it sounds)

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...-2011-numbers/

lumm0x 08-28-2012 11:23 AM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
I like Robinson, but I don't see anything special from him either. As TheDeuce mentioned, he is a solid cover man who struggles to bring guys down in the open field. He's a diving tackle who doesn't wrap up well.

If he can be opportunistic in coverage and make opposing QB's not want to throw his way it will make his tackling issues less of a weakness.

D_it_up 08-28-2012 11:56 AM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
I can go either way with this guy. I'd like to see him this entire year as a starter before I pass judgment on how good/average/bad he is. I've been burned too many times before with high expectations of a corner only for them to disappoint me.

Ashley 08-28-2012 12:30 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
I didn't see the game or hear anything on it. When i do hear something on him, it has always always been negative.
I really do like what I have read here from y'all who has been watching him. Lets hope this year he can pull what Sharper did for us.

Rugby Saint II 08-28-2012 12:45 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
I don't see it either. In fact I've been disappointed in his play.......mostly his tackling. Dive tackles with his head down just isn't going to cut it. The other guys have all shined a little bit.

Danno 08-28-2012 12:50 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
You guys are playing the "yeah but's".

Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan. :p

A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended).

jeanpierre 08-28-2012 01:39 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 432130)
You guys are playing the "yeah but's".

Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan. :p

A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended).

Sorry, been caulking my building and wiring my generator...

But agree with how Danno alluded to Sanders; though I can't call him the greatest corner BECAUSE he couldn't tackle, but definitely top five...

If Robinson can "shut down" passing to that side of the field; if Robinson can generate 8-10 interceptions this season; if his coverage has a synergy affect to helping the pass rush; then, I would consider his pick warranted...

Utah_Saint 08-28-2012 01:50 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
I don't mean to down play the importance of tackling, there's nothing more frustrating than watching the other teams running back blow by your corner's weak attempt at an ankle tackle...

but...

Some of the best cover guys in the game are poor tacklers;
Nnamdi Asomugha,
Chris Gamble,
Dominique Rogers-Cromartie
are all poor tacklers,
Profootballforcus rates Asante Samual as the worst tackler in the NFL and even go so far as to call him the gold standard of tackling inefficiency. (ha ha the falcons suck)

It's just really hard to find guys that are fast enough to be good cover guys yet big enough to be good tacklers.

Hopefully Robinson will improve his tackling skills.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...fensive-backs/

The Dude 08-28-2012 02:58 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 432124)
I didn't see the game or hear anything on it. When i do hear something on him, it has always always been negative.
I really do like what I have read here from y'all who has been watching him. Lets hope this year he can pull what Sharper did for us.

He was owning Andre Johnson for pretty much the whole game. Something that very few CBs in the NFL have been able to do.

TheOak 08-28-2012 02:59 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Defensive Strategy has changed... Johnson caught 2 balls for 30 yards, one for 19...

new Defense as I have seen it puts more people in the vicinity to assist with tackles.


Cant find the preseason stats for missed catches but Robinson broke a few balls up..

What would I rather... Johnson catch 5 and get tackled or Johnson only catching 2 of 5 because Robinson broke them up..

No brainer.

halloween 65 08-28-2012 04:58 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
He has improved, still needs work in certain areas of the game, looks better this season so far though, if he takes care of a few areas he could be great!!

foreverfan 08-28-2012 06:03 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
15 lbs of dreads were weighing him down, restricting his vision, and or hearing...

NOPE... Apparently they were hot an stunk.

Stealthman 08-28-2012 06:56 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
1. Good thread; thanks OP.

2. Robinson appears ready to have a great year, and should have 6+ picks.

3. Don't sell the farm, Ma & Pa... cause he ain't All-World just yet.

TheDeuce 08-28-2012 08:46 PM

Re: Patrick Robinson
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 432130)
You guys are playing the "yeah but's".

Deion Sanders is arguably the greatest CB to ever play the game and I promise you every single member of this forum can tackle better than he could, even Saintfan. :p

A CB's job 1st and foremost is coverage. Patrick Robinson has that covered (pun definitely intended).

That sounds like a "yeah but" to me.... he can't tackle, but he's a great cover corner. Plus, I've seen Deion Sanders, and Patrick Robinson is no Deion Sanders in coverage. Jabari Greer is by far the best cover corner on this team.

Look, I really hope that Robinson develops into a complete player this season, but I just don't see it right now. He's young and still learning, so there's still time to improve. But just because coverage is "a CB's job 1st and foremost" doesn't mean tackling isn't a really important part of playing defense.

p.s. - this was a preseason game right? :)


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