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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Kosoma i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth ...

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Old 09-07-2012, 05:11 PM   #141
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i think the judge still has to rule on the panel reccomendation by sunday. we will still have to deal with suspensions for having a player pool. but this is a huge step in the truth coming out.
goodell better bring a private chef with him to new orleans or get used to spit in all of his food. he will be hard pressed to get a spit free meal anywhere in the city.
According to the CBA players cannot be suspended for a P4P.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:21 PM   #142
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Re: BREAKING- SUSPENSIONS OVERTURNED???

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This may cost him his job.
God that would be great
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:21 PM   #143
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Heads up, Roger
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:22 PM   #144
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Danno! Breakin da news! The news breaker! The break-a-roon-oh! The break-ins-ski! The news man!
Breaking news..........now here's Danno.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:23 PM   #145
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Yep, Payton Loomis and Vitt are sure to follow with some sort of appeal or legal action.
This all happened because of the NFLPA

The coaches are not members of the players association & the NFL does not have stringent rules in dealing with them.

They may be able to go to federal court BUT with the audio from GW I would say the coaches are screwed!!
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:25 PM   #146
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
I posted this before, and I am not a big conspiracy theorist, but I can't help but think that the NFL "hinted" to the panel they needed to reach this conclusion. This conclusion can help Goodell save face, saying he did what he could in the name of player safety, but he will abide by the process set forth by the CBA, all the while avoiding the NFL's "evidence" to be made public, because I firmly believe that the "evidence" either proves all teams had a money pool going, or that the "evidence" is fabricated. Either way, it would be extremely bad for the league.
Goodell was so steadfast that this was it and his decision was made. Fianl. Done. Suspension. Bye.

I agree with you and others.
Soooo, perhaps, reading between the lines, yes, behind closed doors there was most likely more to this story the public will not know about. Sounds like the part of cases where parties settle for disclosed sum, sealed records on things.
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:26 PM   #147
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Maybe it was this!!!!
I'll Rochambeau you for it!!!
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #148
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Originally Posted by NonieT View Post
According to the CBA players cannot be suspended for a P4P.
P4P is also in exclusive jurisdiction of system arbitration. So RG can NOT under any circumstances (barring the CBA becoming void) rule on that issue. The suspensions have been entirely based on "conduct detrimental" so Goodell can impose the same penalties immediately with "proof" of a bounty scheme.

Thankfully Judge Berrigan has said she will not rule on the case "at this moment" which means that she is probably reserving her ruling on the other case pending Goodell's redetermination. This will hopefully keep Goodell in check as he issues new punishments, but will more likely lead to a settlement on all fronts.

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Old 09-07-2012, 05:31 PM   #149
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Old 09-07-2012, 05:35 PM   #150
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Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper View Post
.. yeah, more like 49,820

As I understand it, he can't re-frame anything. I understood from the ruling that he cannot bunch up pay for performance and pay to injure in one, so he is now going to have to define the very instances of pay to injure, which would mean not only that the 49,820 slide deck would have to be made public, but his sources as well. He will have to be transparent the next time around.
He can call it "conduct detrimental" and issue the same suspensions.

Brennagen can come behind him and say everything was mishandled and vacate everything... But she does. It want to do that.
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