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44Champs 09-07-2012 11:01 PM

So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Vilma or Lofton? Lofton showed strong promise before his ankle injury in pre-season. I thought Vilma's play dropped off last yea, and he'll probably be rusty with the layoff. But once he's back to full speed, who would you rather have manning the middle?

hitta 09-07-2012 11:25 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 435642)
Vilma or Lofton? Lofton showed strong promise before his ankle injury in pre-season. I thought Vilma's play dropped off last yea, and he'll probably be rusty with the layoff. But once he's back to full speed, who would you rather have manning the middle?

I dunno... but thinking about Lofton, Vilma, and Hawthorne manning out linebacker spots sounds pretty amazing. On paper we've went from having one of the weaker linebacker cores in the league to having one of the best.

The Dude 09-07-2012 11:36 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton. I think Vilma is on the down side of his career. He will still be better than a backup and could play another spot on our team. He could possibly start at MLB for some teams but given his injuries and all I think Lofton is better at this point in their careers. I side we move him to another position within the LB corps and keep Lofton as starter at MLB.

lee909 09-07-2012 11:58 PM

We need to see if Vilma has anything left.That knee is a major concern.

The Dude 09-08-2012 12:13 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 435652)
We need to see if Vilma has anything left.That knee is a major concern.

Im sure he will be serviceable at the least, I just don't know how soon we will be able to bring him in. He has a lot to learn with this new defense and can't just jump right in there.

mutineer10 09-08-2012 12:32 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton, but I'd like to see Vilma back in a Saints uniform. He can still contribute in certain packages.

MatthewT 09-08-2012 01:00 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
I have to roll with Lofton at this point. I honestly think Vilma's knees are shot, but still could be a very valuable backup once healthy again.

Ashley 09-08-2012 01:10 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton, Vilma has took a step back. Not to say he cant play still, just not were we would want him to be.
But saying this I cant see him being ready to play by week six even if he could.

claus808 09-08-2012 01:27 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton

Luda34 09-08-2012 02:10 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
On run defense Lofton against the pass Vilma. Lifting still has a problem on pass defense just look at the games we played against Atlanta.

FinSaint 09-08-2012 04:19 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton at the MLB position, but as soon as Vilma is healthy enough to play, maybe week 7 - he should come in and relieve Shanle of his duty.

|Mitch| 09-08-2012 04:39 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton is a better MLB and has looked decent in coverage for us so far.

SaintsBro 09-08-2012 05:03 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
If we have money for both, under the cap, which doesn't seem to be a problem, then why not both.

He doesn't have to play every down, but what matters most to me, is that I definitely want to see Vilma go out in style, in a Saints uniform -- not leave the team on bad terms or feel like he's been put out to pasture like an old horse. The man has a lot of love for him in this city and a future here after football. Doesn't mean we have to automatically keep starting him at LB until he's 45 years old, but he's done enough here that he deserves to go out like a hero and not get thrown under the bus.

buckblaster1 09-08-2012 05:17 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
yeah play em both start lofton and give him a breather by putting vilma in some on certain packages. at least we wouldnt have to worry about giving a gu a break and having to down grade to do it

TheOak 09-08-2012 06:03 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
I am all for Lofton/Vilma/Hawthorne Shanle has not been on a decline the last three years he has flat out not produced.

Vilma has been on the decline statistically the last three years but GW defense seems to have really screwed up a lot of players. If Vilma can come back healthy, let him play out as much of the year as possible with Shanle losing to the wayside.

Danno 09-08-2012 07:51 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Assuming Vilma's knees are OK...

In our 4-3
Lofton at MLB
Vilma at WLB
Hawthorne at SLB

In nickle packages, Vilma and Hawthorne

In dime packages, Vilma

xan 09-08-2012 07:55 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Considering Vilma is at best 2 weeks from returning to practice and maybe 5 weeks from being in shape....duh. No brainer.

blackangold 09-08-2012 11:24 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Vilma is a perfect fit for the WLB. Lofton will stay at MLB.

I think Vilma returns by week 4 and plays making our LB corp look like:
SLB Hawthorne
MLB Lofton
WLB Vilma

Utah_Saint 09-08-2012 11:28 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
If that's the choice, I'd got with Lofton, just because Vilma looked slow last season but I don't think that'll be the only options. If Vilma heals up, I think we'll see both Lofton and Vilma in the middle and both of them on the weak side at different times. Just to keep d coordinators guessing.

AlaskaSaints 09-08-2012 11:38 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Just don't forget the fact that Vilma cannot shake a blocker even when healthy. At WLB, at least the blocks will only be coming from one side?

Alaska

Seer1 09-08-2012 05:15 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Nope, it's gonna be:
SLB Hawthorne/Vilma
MLB Lofton
and........ wait for it........
WLB Shanle turning down the ProBowl to play in the Superbowl!

In Spags I hope!

Danno 09-08-2012 05:18 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 435820)
Nope, it's gonna be:
SLB Hawthorne/Vilma
MLB Lofton
and........ wait for it........
WLB Shanle turning down the ProBowl to play in the Superbowl!

In Spags I hope!

Shanle is playing the strongside now. Hawthorne and Casillas are our WLB's. Although I think Hawthorne is probably better suited for SLB

Joker 09-08-2012 06:41 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Loft on all day everyday, can Vilma move to outside LB would be an improvement if he can pick it up, a little different from Playing MLB

RockyMountainSaint 09-08-2012 07:10 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
If the conventional wisdom is that JV is 3-4 wks away from starting?
Injuries may dictate the entire LB corps, week to week.

|Mitch| 09-08-2012 07:13 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint (Post 435848)
If the conventional wisdom is that JV is 3-4 wks away from starting?
Injuries may dictate the entire LB corps, week to week.

I expect Vilma to suspended again in a week or two, then it's up to the judge again. Who knows how long that'll take...

SaintKiller 09-08-2012 07:18 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 435647)
I dunno... but thinking about Lofton, Vilma, and Hawthorne manning out linebacker spots sounds pretty amazing. On paper we've went from having one of the weaker linebacker cores in the league to having one of the best.

Lofton in the middle, Vilma and Hawthorne on the outside doesnt sound to bad.

Having Curtis on the outside wont work at all, not athletic enough.

|Mitch| 09-08-2012 07:23 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by SaintKiller (Post 435853)
Lofton in the middle, Vilma and Hawthorne on the outside doesnt sound to bad.

Having Curtis on the outside wont work at all, not athletic enough.

A Falcon fan posts without saying Lofton is only a 2 down LB and isn't good in coverage. :bugeyes: Must have watched him this preseason :bng:

RockyMountainSaint 09-08-2012 07:32 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 435854)
A Falcon fan posts without saying Lofton is only a 2 down LB and isn't good in coverage. :bugeyes: Must have watched him this preseason :bng:

Yeah, this wasn't predictable at all........

Don't worry killa, it was Lofton and your d-coordinator holding you back.

Nolan will fix everything. The falcons will roll through the playoffs and win the Superbowl with the d scoring your only 2 POINTS per game. Hell, you might even get 4 POINTS sometimes!

TheOak 09-08-2012 07:33 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
To answer the OP.... Lofton. Ability, Youth, health,...

hitta 09-08-2012 09:55 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lets be honest, the Atlanta Falcon's offense has improved a tremendous amount this year, with the addition of their new offensive coordinator and scheme. They also have an amazing field goal kicker; so maybe next year come playoff time, they'll score 5 points.

RockyMountainSaint 09-08-2012 10:01 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 435882)
Lets be honest, the Atlanta Falcon's offense has improved a tremendous amount this year, with the addition of their new offensive coordinator and scheme. They also have an amazing field goal kicker; so maybe next year come playoff time, they'll score 5 points.

:lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup::lolup:

|Mitch| 09-08-2012 10:06 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 435882)
Lets be honest, the Atlanta Falcon's offense has improved a tremendous amount this year, with the addition of their new offensive coordinator and scheme. They also have an amazing field goal kicker; so maybe next year come playoff time, they'll score 5 points.

I thought you were being serious for a sec and then :roflmao:

LBCutta 09-08-2012 10:16 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton....all day long

QBREES9 09-08-2012 11:25 PM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Lofton, it's a wait and see with Johnny V, right now.

Seer1 09-09-2012 12:05 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 435822)
Shanle is playing the strongside now. Hawthorne and Casillas are our WLB's. Although I think Hawthorne is probably better suited for SLB

Danno, awesome avatar awesome information. Thanks for helping me keep it somewhat straight in my my mind.

Danno 09-09-2012 08:03 AM

Re: So who do you prefer at MLB?
 
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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 435933)
Danno, awesome avatar awesome information. Thanks for helping me keep it somewhat straight in my my mind.

But also keep in mind he was moved to SLB last year, but when Casillas got hurt they moved him back to WLB where he played most of the year.

IMHO I think he's better suited for SLB, but he's still probably just mediocre there too.


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