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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by 44Champs We need Greer! wishing they would have held onto Porter right about now. look this is the first game for the DC to check out the players and start to tweak his system to fit the ...

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Old 09-09-2012, 07:16 PM   #41
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Re: Shouldve hired Del Rio

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We need Greer!
wishing they would have held onto Porter right about now.

look this is the first game for the DC to check out the players and start to tweak his system to fit the players, Plus this will be the first real butt chewing they will face.

i give him 3 games and then we should see progress in the defense


Ok offense "Dead Horse" comes out in me.

OFFENSIVE TACKLES NEED UPGRADING !!!!!!

But till then we need to see a better protection scheme from the saints. backs and TE chipping on each play ect ect ect ect
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:24 PM   #42
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Team Loss...Both sides of the ball stunk it up today...

Gotta question if Will Smith was ready to play...

Which leads me to question with Martez Wilson Size, Speed, Strength - is he unable of grasping the defense?!?

He made plays or nearly did when given a chance on special teams...

Cam Jordan looked like he played with more urgency, results from defensive line seemed the same...

Now convinced that Ellis is a bust...

Turning point of the game was when the rookie didn't just piss his pants and fold...

This was like Bout 1 of Rocky III - they had eye of the tiger and our veterans were still happy about their pay day and the new toys they bought themselves!!!

Linebackers didn't look like they were out of position that much...

WE STILL CAN'T F***ING TACKLE!

Cornerbacks looked fine to me, question the Safety Support (Both)!

Greer playing a partial season is starting to become a theme...

Colston fumble, looked like he didn't want to be out there today...

Drew, is he overloaded with too much - and who made that call to send a short Lance Moore for an up top catch route down the middle that he seem to break off of as well?!?

And Drew underthrew Joe Morgan in the end zone - he hasn't been too accurate on the deep throws lately...

Reggie Bush leaves and learns to run straight - now bigger Mark Ingram dances side to side...

Offensive Line looked like a serious liability, especially at the Tackle position - who made the assessment that we'd be fine with Strief and Bushrod manning the bookends; really didn't expect to see a dropoff with Grubbs?!?

It was nice that, even though we played like we didn't want to be there (tired, lathargic), we still had a couple of chances in the last four minutes...

I really wanted to believe that we could manage one season without Payton - Cromer looked like he schiott his pants in the first quarter and was hoping he could get throught the game without anyone noticing - damn, that guy was tight...

It is one game, but I didn't like what I saw today...

But why did it have to be the F**KING Redskins?!? That's one of my most hated teams!!!

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Old 09-09-2012, 07:25 PM   #43
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Re: Shouldve hired Del Rio

Originally Posted by 44Champs View Post
Now I'm convinced we should've hired Del Rio instead of Spagnola. This D looks awful - and against a talented, yet rookie QB.
After one game?

Can you guarantee me the outcome would be different if Del Rio was here right now?

Get out of there with that crap.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:27 PM   #44
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The Saints were flat. The O-Line stunk and if any adjustments were made, they didn't work. The secondary was missing it's best player. Without Greer shutting down his side, they looked like the average talent, inexperienced group at CB they are. Colston didn't look healthy. If Morgan is not going to be returning kicks, they need to cut him. He's not ready to be a WR in the NFL. Does Graham run anything but a seam route? Sooner or later a safety is going to take him out. It almost happened today. Hartley kicked well today. The Saints miss Payton. How Spags was magically going to get pressure from a front four that has never been good at pressuring the QB was beyond me. He didn't today. Maybe this will be a wakeup call. If not, it's going to be a long year. WHO DAT!
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After one game?

Can you guarantee me the outcome would be different if Del Rio was here right now?

Get out of there with that crap.
Gotta agree about one game, linebackers have barely had a chance to play together...

But I'm also convinced that wholesale changes of the personnel on defense and offensive tackles are needed - not coaching...
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I could see hiring Del Rio as a Tackling Consultant - but we don't need to add to the guys we got from USC that suck already...
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After one game?

Can you guarantee me the outcome would be different if Del Rio was here right now?

Get out of there with that crap.
I have a right to my opinion so if you don't want to hear it, you can get out of here with YOUR crap.

We made a frickin ROOKIE IN HIS FIRST GAME look like a prennial All-Pro. And BTW, what kind of idiotic question is that asking me if I can guarantee the outcome? Only Joe Namath can do that.
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Team Loss...Both sides of the ball stunk it up today...

Gotta question if Will Smith was ready to play...

Which leads me to question with Martez Wilson Size, Speed, Strength - is he unable of grasping the defense?!?

He made plays or nearly did when given a chance on special teams...

Cam Jordan looked like he played with more urgency, results from defensive line seemed the same...

Now convinced that Ellis is a bust...

Turning point of the game was when the rookie didn't just piss his pants and fold...

This was like Bout 1 of Rocky III - they had eye of the tiger and our veterans were still happy about their pay day and the new toys they bought themselves!!!

Linebackers didn't look like they were out of position that much...

WE STILL CAN'T F***ING TACKLE!

Cornerbacks looked fine to me, question the Safety Support (Both)!

Greer playing a partial season is starting to become a theme...

Colston fumble, looked like he didn't want to be out there today...

Drew, is he overloaded with too much - and who made that call to send a short Lance Moore for an up top catch route down the middle that he seem to break off of as well?!?

And Drew underthrew Joe Morgan in the end zone - he hasn't been too accurate on the deep throws lately...

Reggie Bush leaves and learns to run straight - now bigger Mark Ingram dances side to side...

Offensive Line looked like a serious liability, especially at the Tackle position - who made the assessment that we'd be fine with Strief and Bushrod manning the bookends; really didn't expect to see a dropoff with Grubbs?!?

It was nice that, even though we played like we didn't want to be there (tired, lathargic), we still had a couple of chances in the last four minutes...

I really wanted to believe that we could manage one season without Payton - Cromer looked like he schiott his pants in the first quarter and was hoping he could get throught the game without anyone noticing - damn, that guy was tight...

It is one game, but I didn't like what I saw today...

But why did it have to be the F**KING Redskins?!? That's one of my most hated teams!!!
Best line was about how tight he was, and man was he
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:52 PM   #49
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Watching Denver's defense tonight makes me feel really good that we didn't hire Jack Del Rio. Their defense is jaw droppingly bad. The only thing good about their defense is Tracy Porter.

Of course, I am not sold on Spagnola yet either especially after our terrible performance today. Maybe we should've hired someone else entirely. I am rooting for him though.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:45 PM   #50
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Look I really didn't like Williams when we hired him, nor while he was here...

Spagnuolo did have some success with the Giants and he did leave the Rams with a real nice defense in place...

The new linebacking corps has not had time to play together...

And as much as I hate to make excuses for the safeties, especially Harper, they need time with the LB corps as well as they learn to "exchange coverage" on receivers moving through their respective zones like a relay team passed the baton...

Now, for several years we haven't drafted as well in Round 1 on defense with the exception of maybe Patrick Robinson, that and Cam Jordan needs another year, maybe two to really grade accurately...

Gotta tell ya that as f**ked as this may seem - I was looking forward to Will Smith have the extra time off and this is why -

first, he'd be fresh later in the season and...

second, we could see what we really had in Junior Galette and Martez Wilson...

Wilson, in particular as, on paper, he's bigger, faster, stronger, younger than Smith...but he can't seem to get into the starting lineup; why?

Can Wilson not grasp the schemes and concepts? Skills? I mean this isn't rocket science or have we made it that? If rookies like Cam Newton, Robert Griffin III, Von Miller, Andrew Luck can come in and have some success as much more complicated positions, what is the deal that Wilson can't overtake Smith, who I believe is too slow and small to be a game changer, consistently, for the salary slot he's paid...

And I'm tired of hearing of Junior Galette's ability - I really love his story coming from Stillman, but I want to see all of this 'potential' translate on the field or start looking for his replacement...

This is just rough because it was a rookie REDSKINS QB that came in and schooled our team at home, opening day...

Midseason, we should have a base line and some history and data to compare whether Spagnuolo is truly improving the defense...

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