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papz 09-14-2012 07:05 AM

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A little more than 12 hours after their season-opening game against the Washington Redskins, New Orleans Saints interim coach Aaron Kromer headed to the office for one of those days coaches love to hate.

After a 40-32 loss to the Redskins in his head coaching debut as a fill-in for suspended coaches Sean Payton and Joe Vitt, Kromer already knew in the pre-dawn hours what kind of day that it was going to be: “Overreaction Monday.”

Kromer explained Wednesday the backlash that comes with expectations that aren’t met happens on a weekly basis all around the NFL, not just in New Orleans.

Like in the Saints’ surprising loss to the Redskins.

Excited fans eager to forget all the talk about the bounty scandal certainly expected more from an offense that set an NFL record last season with 7,474 total yards and a defense that should be improved under Steve Spagnuolo.

But they looked anything but that. The Saints struggled on both sides of the ball, uncharacteristically so on offense, and played on their heels most of the afternoon.

Hence, the overreaction Kromer referred to.

“Half the teams lost and half the teams won,” he said. “Every team that won was crowned a Super Bowl champion and every team that lost wasn’t going to make the playoffs. We know that is far from the truth.”

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Mardigras9 09-14-2012 09:54 AM

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“Every team that won was crowned a Super Bowl champion and every team that lost wasn’t going to make the playoffs. We know that is far from the truth.”

Man, isn't that the truth.

Rugby Saint II 09-14-2012 12:11 PM

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Overreaction? I am not so sure. We have to see how the next couple of games play out under interim interim coach Kromer.

RailBoss 09-15-2012 01:31 AM

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This is the hand we are dealt and the team has to react and play well against the Panthers. Also remember the Skins played out of their skulls Sunday and our tract record is not good against them.

REDSKINS vs SAINTS

SERIES LEADER WASHINGTON 15-8

SloMotion 09-15-2012 05:47 AM

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There's still some positives to scoring 32 points in a week the team 'struggled' and 'played on it's heels'. Any other team in the NFL has a game like that and they come away with 10pts.

alexonfyre 09-15-2012 12:52 PM

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Kromer may have the most intelligent comments to the press of any coach I have seen.

GoofySaint 09-15-2012 04:12 PM

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He's right you know.

I can't count the amount of people on here that said the season was over when we lost to the skins.

blackangold 09-15-2012 04:29 PM

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Kromer may have the most intelligent comments to the press of any coach I have seen.

I just wish he would use some of that intelligence and engage the refs and players during games. I never saw him say a word to anyone during the skins game. Leadership and communication go hand-and-hand, can't have one without the other.

|Mitch| 09-15-2012 06:15 PM

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I just wish he would use some of that intelligence and engage the refs and players during games. I never saw him say a word to anyone during the skins game. Leadership and communication go hand-and-hand, can't have one without the other.

Damn, it was his first game as a head coach. Let him get acclimated and figure it out. It has to be a learn as you go thing...

SaintsBro 09-15-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 438674)
This is the hand we are dealt and the team has to react and play well against the Panthers. Also remember the Skins played out of their skulls Sunday and our tract record is not good against them.

REDSKINS vs SAINTS

SERIES LEADER WASHINGTON 15-8

I would hate for RG3 to get really really good and then we have to face them in like a wildcard game or something. They seem to have our number.

blackangold 09-15-2012 07:08 PM

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Damn, it was his first game as a head coach. Let him get acclimated and figure it out. It has to be a learn as you go thing...

Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do I expect a learning curve, yes, but I expect him to act like he was on the field. In the skins game he could have been in the box and you wouldn't have noticed.

I do hope he steps up, we need him to. However, I have been a Saints fan for too long to see us rise to greatness only to go back to accepting mediocrity. That goes for players and coaches alike.

|Mitch| 09-15-2012 07:11 PM

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Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible.

Do you know for certain that's what happened? Or just what they shown on tv?

SaintsBro 09-15-2012 07:15 PM

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So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible.

Just curious, HOW DO YOU KNOW that he said nothing to the players responsible? Have you been in the team meetings all week? Were you on the sidelines last Sunday? Stood next to him at every practice? Come on be realistic. OF COURSE he said something to the players and coaches. He's just not going to air that dirty laundry in public. Get a grip. Even if you were in the freaking front row of 142, you don't know anything of what was said.

blackangold 09-15-2012 07:15 PM

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Do you know for certain that's what happened? Or just what they shown on tv?

Section 603 and never saw him communicate with players or refs. Is it possible I missed it, sure.

Not saying I don't think he can be a great coach. I just want to see some fire from him. Our players had that from payton and they need it from someone now.

|Mitch| 09-15-2012 07:17 PM

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Section 603 and never saw him communicate with players or refs. Is it possible I missed it, sure.

Not saying I don't think he can be a great coach. I just want to see some fire from him. Our players had that from payton and they need it from someone now.

Everyone has different personalities and coaching styles, players responding to one doesn't mean they can't or will not respond to a different style... Give the man time, it was only "one" game

blackangold 09-15-2012 07:18 PM

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Just curious, HOW DO YOU KNOW that he said nothing to the players responsible? Have you been in the team meetings all week? Were you on the sidelines last Sunday? Stood next to him at every practice? Come on be realistic. OF COURSE he said something to the players and coaches. He's just not going to air that dirty laundry in public. Get a grip. Even if you were in the freaking front row of 142, you don't know anything of what was said.

Talking about during the game, and not just the players. The awful call on Harper (PI) and yet no reaction out of him. On the other sideline you could tell Shanhan (SP) was on fire for every bad call, I could tell even from the upper deck.

blackangold 09-15-2012 07:19 PM

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Everyone has different personalities and coaching styles, players responding to one doesn't mean they can't or will not respond to a different style... Give the man time, it was only "one" game

I am not throwing him out with the bathwater. Just voicing my concern.

GoofySaint 09-15-2012 07:31 PM

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Talking about during the game, and not just the players. The awful call on Harper (PI) and yet no reaction out of him. On the other sideline you could tell Shanhan (SP) was on fire for every bad call, I could tell even from the upper deck.

I saw Sean Payton just standing there unfazed during the 9ers.
I saw crazy calls during that game yet Payton just stood there like a boss.

Payton is not a bad coach.

On the other side I saw Harbaugh screaming and crying like an idiot at the smallest things.

The reality is that just because one coach yells at his teammates more doesn't mean he's a better coach.

In fact I've noticed the ones that yell the most are usually the bad coaches(Todd Haley, mike singletary, etc)

Harbuagh is different but he's always at everybody BUT his team.

Whereas the coaches who stand unfazed on TV seem to do well.

Mike Tomlin
Bill Belichick
Payton(most of the time at least on tv)

If Mike Shanahan was the better coach, he wouldn't be in a position to need a QB like RG3.

QBREES9 09-15-2012 10:03 PM

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“Every team that won was crowned a Super Bowl champion and every team that lost wasn’t going to make the playoffs.

This is the truth.

The Dude 09-15-2012 10:20 PM

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Communication with individuals on the field should not be a learn as you go type of thing. So many mistakes in this game by our players (penalty wise) yet the head coach says nothing to the players responsible. Do I expect a learning curve, yes, but I expect him to act like he was on the field. In the skins game he could have been in the box and you wouldn't have noticed.

I do hope he steps up, we need him to. However, I have been a Saints fan for too long to see us rise to greatness only to go back to accepting mediocrity. That goes for players and coaches alike.

Best thing I have heard anyone say in a long time. We need to hold this team accountable like fans hold LSU and Les Miles accountable. Miles loses one game and fans scream for his head, yes this year we are in a different situation with Kromer, but they have to be held to some kind of standard.


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