Our Defense

mutineer10 · 09-16-2012, 04:19 PM

What defense?

westbankdaze · 09-16-2012, 04:20 PM

We do not have a defense.

Garry42 · 09-16-2012, 04:24 PM

Our Defence (if that's what you want to call it!) is absolutely sad! We gave up a ton of 40+ yard plays and didn't have a clue how to adjust. I'm going to be rooting for the Saints come whatever, but this is shaping up to be a long season. We can't continually rely on the Offense to outscore what our D gives up! The game today was painful to watch!!

Danno · 09-16-2012, 04:28 PM

There is no adjustment for an inferior front 7.

arsaint · 09-16-2012, 04:31 PM

1) Can't stop anyone - 68 points in two games

2) Can't generate many turnovers

3) Offense always in catchup mode

We are seeing a chain reaction meltdown -
A) Defense blows
B) Brees thinks he has to do it all
C) Other team edges ahead
D) We pass 4 out of 5 down and the other team knows it
E) Dropped passed or other mistakes put our D back on the field
F) Rinse, lather, repeat and lose

It would not matter if Payton, Lombardi and Bellichek all rolled into one were the coach right now. We are not losing because of a bad challenge, a bad overall gameplan (unless you want to blame Spags' D gameplan), or a missed timeout.

We fundamentally blow at defense. Go find 11 undrafted FA rookies and start them - I don't think it would look any worse and would cost the team a hell of a lot less!

Danno · 09-16-2012, 04:34 PM

Well the offense gave opponents 21 of those points. Just sayin'

SaintKiller · 09-16-2012, 04:38 PM

You guys defense is great should be top 5 by the end of the season. I put my trust in Spags!

|Mitch| · 09-16-2012, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by SaintKiller

You guys defense is great should be top 5 by the end of the season. I put my trust in Spags!

I agree!

maybe not top 5, but greatly improved

TheOak · 09-16-2012, 04:54 PM

Ok I have listened to a lot of opinions about our defense and cant say any of them are entirely wrong.

Here is my question... What "if" Greg Williams, knew all of this and ran the Defense the way he ran the defense because that was the only way it would work?

Obviously what we are trying is not working very well thus far. I am not completely sure our offense can hold up long enough to allow the Defense to catch up...

We need to be able to run more to take some wear and tare off of Drew. He had another near 50 attempt game.

Danno · 09-16-2012, 04:58 PM

I saw our DE's hesitate while rushing in order to keep from getting burned outside by the two most elusive running QB's in the league.

I doubt they're that scared of Ryan, Cassell, Freeman etc...

09-16-2012, 04:19 PM	#11
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Re: Our Defense What defense?

09-16-2012, 04:20 PM	#12
westbankdaze 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 843	We do not have a defense.
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09-16-2012, 04:24 PM	#13
Garry42 Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 785	Re: Our Defense Our Defence (if that's what you want to call it!) is absolutely sad! We gave up a ton of 40+ yard plays and didn't have a clue how to adjust. I'm going to be rooting for the Saints come whatever, but this is shaping up to be a long season. We can't continually rely on the Offense to outscore what our D gives up! The game today was painful to watch!!

09-16-2012, 04:28 PM	#14
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Our Defense There is no adjustment for an inferior front 7. Mikemike likes this.

09-16-2012, 04:31 PM	#15
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,623	We need DEFENSE - it is that simple 1) Can't stop anyone - 68 points in two games 2) Can't generate many turnovers 3) Offense always in catchup mode We are seeing a chain reaction meltdown - A) Defense blows B) Brees thinks he has to do it all C) Other team edges ahead D) We pass 4 out of 5 down and the other team knows it E) Dropped passed or other mistakes put our D back on the field F) Rinse, lather, repeat and lose It would not matter if Payton, Lombardi and Bellichek all rolled into one were the coach right now. We are not losing because of a bad challenge, a bad overall gameplan (unless you want to blame Spags' D gameplan), or a missed timeout. We fundamentally blow at defense. Go find 11 undrafted FA rookies and start them - I don't think it would look any worse and would cost the team a hell of a lot less! Garry42 likes this.

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09-16-2012, 04:34 PM	#16
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: We need DEFENSE - it is that simple Well the offense gave opponents 21 of those points. Just sayin' st thomas likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Our Defense Originally Posted by SaintKiller You guys defense is great should be top 5 by the end of the season. I put my trust in Spags! I agree! maybe not top 5, but greatly improved

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Re: We need DEFENSE - it is that simple Ok I have listened to a lot of opinions about our defense and cant say any of them are entirely wrong. Here is my question... What "if" Greg Williams, knew all of this and ran the Defense the way he ran the defense because that was the only way it would work? Obviously what we are trying is not working very well thus far. I am not completely sure our offense can hold up long enough to allow the Defense to catch up... We need to be able to run more to take some wear and tare off of Drew. He had another near 50 attempt game.
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09-16-2012, 04:58 PM	#20
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: We need DEFENSE - it is that simple I saw our DE's hesitate while rushing in order to keep from getting burned outside by the two most elusive running QB's in the league. I doubt they're that scared of Ryan, Cassell, Freeman etc... TheOak likes this.

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