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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Is there anything good to say about this Defense at all? I cannot see a shining light amongst what I thought, at the start of the season, was far improved on last season, including the main change to DC what ...

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Old 09-16-2012, 03:46 PM   #1
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Our Defense

Is there anything good to say about this Defense at all? I cannot see a shining light amongst what I thought, at the start of the season, was far improved on last season, including the main change to DC what with Spagnuolo being in town.

From the front. Absolutely no pressure whatsoever. Our Pass Rush never looks like it could threaten any QB with a sack and there is very little pressure from the interior either. There is no concept of containment either inside or outside as we seem to get gashed time and again with the run. At times, Carolina were picking up over 10 yards a carry consistently, or so it seemed.

LineBackers. What is going on here? I thought this was far improved and on paper, certainly seemed to be but the man and zone coverage is wayward and we are giving up smaller completed passes with regularity as opposed to say letting the odd big play slip but breaking up checkdowns and passes into the slot. Maybe I am being harsh because they are having to cover up the problems of the rest of the defense. They don't look good but maybe the best we have

Corners and Safeties. Patrick Robinson is awful. And I am being polite. He has been unproductive since we drafted him and is now actually becoming a liability. Time and time again he is being targeted and he never seems to have any answers at all. Greer coming back is massive for us but only lends itself to everyone throwing at Robinson! Corey White is looking every bit the rookie at the moment as well. As for safeties, Jenkins always concerns me but is ok. Harper I do not rate at all and haven't done for many seasons. He would serve better further up into the defense. Not a safety.

When you are conceding over 30 points a game, you cannot keep relying on your offense, however good it is, to keep digging you out of trouble. And with our O-line looking less than stellar, this could be a horribly long season.

I'm not hitting any hate/panic switches. I love this team and will do if we go 0-16 but surely we all have the right to ask some questions? We actually spend a tonne of cash on that defense (how many high draft picks are there in that starting 11??????) and we do not get that calibre of player.

Grumble.
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:51 PM   #2
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Re: Our Defense

Our what?

What the hell did they defend? They should switch names with the offense because that is what they are: OFFENSIVE!!
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The only players who looked decent through 2 games were Bunkley, Jordan and Harper. The rest have been major diappointments.
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:58 PM   #4
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I want to see the ranked stats on Tuesday. They've got to be the worst defense in the NFL right now, no? I'd love to see a stat on how many times teams punt against them, we have to be in the last 2 or 3 in forcing punts, I would think. The other team can receive the kickoff or punt and it can be first and 10 on their own 10 yard line, and you can practically just go ahead and chalk another 7 on the scoreboard for them. We're always behind, no matter if the Saints offense looks good or bad.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:01 PM   #5
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I read somewhere that Spags' defense always looks bad when he first takes over but that it improves as time goes on. I'm hanging hope on that. Other wise I'll just have to start drinking again.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:06 PM   #6
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Sorry but you lost credibility with "Jenkins always concerns me but is ok"

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? This guy is so bad its laughable. Just one example..that 66 yd pass to Smith..guess who's fault that was? The guy is so lost in this scheme..I am willing to bet we have the worst safety tandem in the league.
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Sorry but you lost credibility with "Jenkins always concerns me but is ok"

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? This guy is so bad its laughable. Just one example..that 66 yd pass to Smith..guess who's fault that was? The guy is so lost in this scheme..I am willing to bet we have the worst safety tandem in the league.
Safeties weren't the problem in either of the two losses. Not even close.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:09 PM   #8
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Agree with Danno completely.

That 66 yard pass was Patrick Robinson - AGAIN - who took the WR inside. He should have handed him off to Jenkins and stayed with the outside man, Steve Smith, who gashed him for the play.

I'm happy to admit Jenkins is not an amazing player. I think though that he has improved and is not even close to being the first thing I would fix on that D.
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Last year everyone was hating on Roman, this year it's all Jenkins and you hear nothing about Harper
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Last year everyone was hating on Roman, this year it's all Jenkins and you hear nothing about Harper
Its what happens when you give ANY NFL QB 3 or 4 extra seconds in the pocket. The two safeties are the last line of defense so it looks like their fault to the casual fan. Ed Reed and Troy Palomalu would be blasted with the amount of time we're giving QB's to throw.
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