Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day!

SmashMouth · 09-17-2012, 04:48 PM

Vilma and his lawyer, Peter Ginsberg, said they expect to hear something possibly this week or next week. Vilma wouldn't say if a compromise was discussed during the meeting. He did say that both sides spoke candidly and that the meeting was in everyone's best interest.

Ginsberg said Vilma said everything he wanted to say, was thorough and did most of the talking during the meeting.

Ginsberg said Vilma was 100 percent truthful and that this was easily the most productive day of the whole Vilma situation.

Jonathan Vilma says no decision reached in meeting with Roger Goodell - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com

saintfan · 09-17-2012, 04:55 PM

Roger will lie, spin, manipulate, and misrepresent. Guaranteed.

W. Kovacs · 09-17-2012, 05:08 PM

apparently Goodell gave Vilma a sworn affidavit from GW that indicates Vilma did offer $10,000 to anyone who knocked out Favre...

Halo · 09-17-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

apparently Goodell gave Vilma a sworn affidavit from GW that indicates Vilma did offer $10,000 to anyone who knocked out Favre...

link?

Halo · 09-17-2012, 05:39 PM

In Monday's meeting, the NFL gave Vilma a sworn affidavit from former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams that the New Orleans linebacker offered $10,000 to any teammate who knocked quarterback Brett Favre out of the January 2010 NFC Championship Game, a source with knowledge of the meeting told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

In the same affidavit, Williams confirmed the Saints had a pay-for-performance pool funded by the Saints players, the source said.

Link

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

apparently Goodell gave Vilma a sworn affidavit from GW that indicates Vilma did offer $10,000 to anyone who knocked out Favre...

I knew it....... Been saying GW turned and will give Goodell what ever he wants, factual or not, to have a career again.

|Mitch| · 09-17-2012, 05:42 PM

Williams, according to the source, said he knew the pool violated league rules, but they never had the intent to injure or commit any on-field misconduct, they never rewarded any conduct that the refs flagged as a penalty, and any penalized conduct

This constitutes nothing more than salary cap violations; right?

TheOak · 09-17-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

This constitutes nothing more than salary cap violations; right?

Conduct detrimental. Something which Goodell can suspend him anywhere between 1 hour and 1,400 light years depending on his mood that day.

Halo · 09-17-2012, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

This constitutes nothing more than salary cap violations; right?

Goodell has to prove or suspect there was intent to injure. Curious that Vilma's reaction was upbeat. They may have evidence that controverts Williams statement. Interesting.

Remember, Gregg Williams statement is now saying that Vilma offered 10 thousand dollars to any linebacker who knocked out Brett Favre, not that Vilma accepted money to knock out Favre....

|Mitch| · 09-17-2012, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Conduct detrimental. Something which Goodell can suspend him anywhere between 1 hour and 1,400 light years depending on his mood that day.

I was thinking:

Pay for Performance = salary cap violation

Pay to Injure = suspensions reinstated

I may be way off base though

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by W. Kovacs apparently Goodell gave Vilma a sworn affidavit from GW that indicates Vilma did offer $10,000 to anyone who knocked out Favre... I knew it....... Been saying GW turned and will give Goodell what ever he wants, factual or not, to have a career again. Halo likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Williams, according to the source, said he knew the pool violated league rules, but they never had the intent to injure or commit any on-field misconduct, they never rewarded any conduct that the refs flagged as a penalty, and any penalized conduct This constitutes nothing more than salary cap violations; right?

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 18,978	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| This constitutes nothing more than salary cap violations; right? Conduct detrimental. Something which Goodell can suspend him anywhere between 1 hour and 1,400 light years depending on his mood that day.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Have we forgotten? Monday... Vilma Day! Originally Posted by x626xBlack Conduct detrimental. Something which Goodell can suspend him anywhere between 1 hour and 1,400 light years depending on his mood that day. I was thinking: Pay for Performance = salary cap violation Pay to Injure = suspensions reinstated I may be way off base though

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