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dizzle88 09-17-2012 01:07 PM

Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Will smith has done absolutely nothing since 2009 now, he looks old and slow and cannot beat anyone in one on one situations anymore

He was great at getting pressure in 2009, but the situation we are in I'm more bothered about what have you done for me lately?

Answer - nothing

Still don't see why the coaches can't just start Tez, we have the 32nd rank defense now, it can't possibly get any worse and Tez might give us an injection of speed of the edge

Our defense is slow and we have faced 2 of the fastest teams, come on coaches just bench smith and start Tez, even I can see he isn't performing

Mardigras9 09-17-2012 01:16 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Wilson has looked great on special teams. Sounds like a great idea to me.

CharityMike 09-17-2012 01:20 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
It's gonna take Smith being suspended or hurt for Tez to get his shot. But what the hell do we know. We have been saying Shanle is crap for 4 years yet he is still the starter.

Ashley 09-17-2012 01:21 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 439777)
It's gonna take Smith being suspended or hurt for Tez to get his shot. But what the hell do we know. We have been saying Shanle is crap for 4 years yet he is still the starter.

That is the truth

Mardigras9 09-17-2012 02:00 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 439777)
It's gonna take Smith being suspended or hurt for Tez to get his shot. But what the hell do we know. We have been saying Shanle is crap for 4 years yet he is still the starter.

and still crap, lol.

The Dude 09-17-2012 02:04 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
If the coaches knew half as much about coaching and personnel as the people on these boards we would win the Super Bowl every year.

TheOak 09-17-2012 02:08 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
2012: tackles LOL!

Will Smith = 4
Scott Shanle = 5
Travaris Cadet = 1
Joe Morgan = 2

CharityMike 09-17-2012 02:11 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 439807)
2012: tackles LOL!

Will Smith = 4
Scott Shanle = 5
Travaris Cadet = 1
Joe Morgan = 2

Well..at least Shanle can say one of his tackles was a QB..can Smith say that?

|Mitch| 09-17-2012 02:14 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 439807)
2012: tackles LOL!

Will Smith = 4
Scott Shanle = 5
Travaris Cadet = 1
Joe Morgan = 2

Lofton leads the team with 19; like the MLB should in a 4-3

TheOak 09-17-2012 02:16 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 439809)
Well..at least Shanle can say one of his tackles was a QB..can Smith say that?

Moral of the story is we have a Wide Receiver, and a Running Back that has yet to play Running back with 1/2 as many tackles LOL


Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 439813)
Lofton leads the team with 19; like the MLB should in a 4-3

I didnt count assists.

|Mitch| 09-17-2012 02:38 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 439816)
I didnt count assists.

Okay, Jenkins has 11 solo tackles and Lofton is tied with Harper for second with 9...

TheOak 09-17-2012 02:49 PM

Wish a site tracked missed tackles.

blackangold 09-17-2012 02:56 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Not going to happen... just like Shanle still starting....


And we wonder why we dont have a good D or any stand out players. I still blame the coaches for putting trash like Shanle and Jenkins on the field.

dizzle88 09-17-2012 03:06 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 439850)
Not going to happen... just like Shanle still starting....


And we wonder why we dont have a good D or any stand out players. I still blame the coaches for putting trash like Shanle and Jenkins on the field.

If Jenkins makes no impact any time soon he needs to be gone

He's been as effective as Ellis has - 2 draft picks I wish we could do over

spkb25 09-17-2012 03:06 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
I sure hope that will smith and ellis are gone at the end of the year. They are overpaid and underproductive. Does anyone know how much cap room letting both of those deadweights go frees up?

spkb25 09-17-2012 03:07 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Wilson was phenom on sunday on ST

CharityMike 09-17-2012 03:09 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 439855)
I sure hope that will smith and ellis are gone at the end of the year. They are overpaid and underproductive. Does anyone know how much cap room letting both of those deadweights go frees up?

From what I understand, since we restructured Smith, we can't do anything with him this year. Ellis is on his final year of contract. I think it's safe to say that he will not be here next year.

Of course, we have been saying that Shanle won't be here another year and that was 4 years ago..lol

vpheughan 09-17-2012 03:31 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Yet we praise the front office for all of the "under ther radar" free agents they find but they are dumb as posts on evaluating defensive line talent. All the DL picks are horrible! I don't care who the DC is, as a great man once said "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken Sh*t" Also no one will ever underestimate the value of a TRUE HEAD COACH!! Roger should have suspended the whole team for the season it would be much easier to take as a fan.

spkb25 09-17-2012 03:57 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 439871)
Yet we praise the front office for all of the "under ther radar" free agents they find but they are dumb as posts on evaluating defensive line talent.

In fairness Smith was drafter under Has. Hicks actually looks like he is going to be a steal

skymike 09-17-2012 06:01 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 439802)
If the coaches knew half as much about coaching and personnel as the people on these boards we would win the Super Bowl every year.

I know! Why wont they listen to us?

Barry from MS 09-18-2012 05:19 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Junior? Give the boy a shot? But I'll bet Smith has more gap discipline and better outside contain than both Junior or Tez, but that might be just coincidence since ol' Willie is obviously slower and just can't move anymore.

Tell ya what: Switch the roles of Will and Tez/Junior plus the roles of Ellis with Walker/Johnson. Why not? They'd certainly bring more fire and excitement. They'd also bring more penalties and mental mistakes, but I could live with that considering the lethargy and apathy that our defense is playing with now. Let the kids have a bigger role.

If that actually gets done but fails miserably, I'll gladly eat crow for that. Just some passion on the D side would be nice to see. The incentive of a larger pay day for the kids is a bigger incentive for them to produce than trying to get the multi-millionaires Smith and Ellis to exert themselves for jack-squat.

FYI...thinking Ellis is ready to run for Seattle in the offseason to rejoin his USC roots, and I'd be extremely shocked to see much of anything out of this @$$clown the rest of year. He has more than clocked out just judging by these last 2 games, and I ain't talking stats (even moderately effective DT's don't show up too much on the stat sheet).

dizzle88 09-18-2012 05:23 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Tez needs to be given a shot, he really can't be worse than smith and would probably give our D a fresh approach

The only d lineman I like that we have is cam Jordan, akiem hicks might be a steal

AllSaints 09-18-2012 05:28 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Will Smith is done... I wish the Saints would see that... Shanle... im still not sure why he is on our team... I havent liked the guy since he was signed... but hopefully n the upcoming weeks the guys on our D can get Spags system and put sum hurt on somebody...

CharityMike 09-18-2012 07:01 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 440400)
Will Smith is done... I wish the Saints would see that... Shanle... im still not sure why he is on our team... I havent liked the guy since he was signed... but hopefully n the upcoming weeks the guys on our D can get Spags system and put sum hurt on somebody...

That's like asking the age old question..how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop. Nobody really knows :)

Pete 09-18-2012 07:14 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
Has all the double teams the man has had to endure and face thru the years finally take its toll?
I don't know please enlighten me.
I think not.It has to be something to do with The Star-caps incident!Has to be (Pete scratches his head) ...:bng:

RaginCajun83 09-18-2012 07:25 PM

Re: Can we start Wilson instead of will smith yet?
 
I've been wanting Smith gone for 2 years now same with Shanle and both are still on team and the defense continues to struggle, its time to cut these old, underachieving, overpaid players and give the young guys a chance. Whats the worse that can happen now?


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