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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think Jenkins CAN make big plays and CAN change the outcome of a game. The famous Dallas strip being a really good example. He CAN do it. The problem is, he hasn't made enough of them. Talent to do ...

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Old 09-26-2012, 09:38 AM   #11
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Re: I knew they weren't great but DAMN!

I think Jenkins CAN make big plays and CAN change the outcome of a game. The famous Dallas strip being a really good example. He CAN do it. The problem is, he hasn't made enough of them. Talent to do it? Yes -- proven. Actually doing it? Well, like a lot of our defenders, we could always use more out of them than we feel like we're getting.

But he's made some big plays -- his 4th quarter tackle of Chris Johnson short of the first down, against the Titans last year, being another really big one. It just didn't LOOK LIKE a big exciting Sportscenter-type play, which is what some people want to see all the time. But that stop on that drive influenced the outcome of the game, which clinched us a playoff berth that day -- no question about that. He has others like that.
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:54 AM   #12
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Is it too late to move Malcolm back to CB?

edit: And I know we have no one to take his place since we released Amaya, just wondering if he would be better there since it was his original position in college. Draft/trade for/outright purchase from another team somebody who has a better nose for the ball and where its going to be

Like The Great One said, he doesn't go where the puck has been, he goes where its going to be. And Malcolm certainly does not do that. Just a thought.
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Is it too late to move Malcolm back to CB?

edit: And I know we have no one to take his place since we released Amaya, just wondering if he would be better there since it was his original position in college. Draft/trade for/outright purchase from another team somebody who has a better nose for the ball and where its going to be

Like The Great One said, he doesn't go where the puck has been, he goes where its going to be. And Malcolm certainly does not do that. Just a thought.
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Jenkins and Harper are not the problem with this defense, by a long shot.

True, but they are the topic of this particular thread.

And for the record, I do think Harper is a good SS especially against the run, but at the same time I do think the Saints are overpaying him.

With the money he is getting he should be a difference maker on the field, but he has been that very rarely since he got his new contract last offseason.

Since you brought up Adrian Wilson as an example of a top tier SS in the league Danno, I'll use his salary as a comparison to what the Saints are paying Harper.

2012 Cap Hits: Harper $6.35M; Wilson $3.45M (Harper gets 1.8 times what Wilson gets)
2013 Cap Hits: Harper $7.1M; Wilson $4.625M (Harper gets 1.5 times what Wilson gets)
2014 Cap Hits: Harper $7.9M; Wilson $4.625M (Harper gets 1.7 times what Wilson gets)
2015 Cap Hits: Harper UFA; Wilson $4.625M

In that light either the Cardinals are paying Wilson less than he deserves or the Saints are way overpaying Harper for his services.

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