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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by alexonfyre Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense. Yikes. I think I'm gonna go throw up now......

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Old 09-28-2012, 01:26 PM   #31
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Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense.
Yikes.

I think I'm gonna go throw up now...
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Old 09-28-2012, 01:29 PM   #32
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So you get a high 1st for 2013 and a high 2nd for 2013 too
We don't get a 2013 2nd rounder

thanks rog, I hope you trip and fall down in front of lots of people
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Originally Posted by alexonfyre View Post
Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense.
And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players.
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Old 09-28-2012, 02:09 PM   #34
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Stil,l I can't help but wonder how would our defense be if Payton was at the helm now. He expects more than we are currently getting from them to date.
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Originally Posted by alexonfyre View Post
Coaches and players have both said that Scott Shanle is the smartest man on our defense.
Stephen Hawking is awfully smart, but probably wouldn't be a very good LB either ...
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And he probably is. Thats why he was voted defensive MVP by our own players.
So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators.

So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around

If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.
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So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators.

So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around

If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.

No one said that he was smart... only that he was the smartest.

To me, there's a huge difference!


Oh, and the main reason why I complain about Shanle being a starter is that he is sooooo slow compared to the players he is supposed to be tackling that it makes it very painful to watch him play, and he doesn't have the natural positional instincts to cover his lack of speed and movement skills in general.
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:38 PM   #38
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No one said that he was smart... only that he was the smartest.

To me, there's a huge difference!
That distinction is pure gold
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So this dude is smart, he's a defensive MVP on the team, and a perennial starter for three different defensive coordinators.

So why all the Shanle hate all the time? And not necessarily from you Danno, but I feel like I see a lot of it around

If the dude is so smart and so capable, there should be no reason for people to throw all the hate his direction. I'm confused.
I said smart, but I didn't say capable. He has an all-pro brain, but mediocre talent.

The total package equates to about NFL average for an OLB, maybe slightly below.

The main problem is we haven't acquired anyone better. Until someone surpasses him, he will and should remain the starter.

And its not like we haven't tried. Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall.
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I said smart, but I didn't say capable. He has an all-pro brain, but mediocre talent.

The total package equates to about NFL average for an OLB, maybe slightly below.

The main problem is we haven't acquired anyone better. Until someone surpasses him, he will and should remain the starter.

And its not like we haven't tried. Herring, Casillas, Hawthorne, Chamberlain, Arnoux, Wilson, Bussey, that Jax LB that GW liked, and probably a few others I can't recall.

Chamberlain looked surprisingly good before he got hurt, and he might've been able to give Shanle some honest competition, if he hadn't had to go and do the "Herring" on us.
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