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jeanpierre 09-30-2012 07:55 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
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Originally Posted by winmill1 (Post 444718)
I thought I made that clear. He used to have fire when he caught the ball, he was hard to bring down, and I saw him like swat a ball down when he was going to take a hit. Out of character for him.

Graham still has fire and he's still playing as hard...

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Originally Posted by winmill1 (Post 444727)
And as of last week he led the league in drops. Moore and Sproles probably do now, but for the best Tight End in the league he has been dropping a lot of balls. Something is not right with him. He used to throw people out of the way and would fire up the whole team and now he is just quiet. He is still great but something is definitely missing.

Here's the problem with drops, same as interceptions and all stats - you have to watch the game to see what's going on so that accurate analysis can be done...

He's overworked - he's used to suck the defense in and then the other options begin to open up...the Joe Morgan TD - watch the previous plays and see how GB was set up...

J Graham is one of the few good things happening to this team right now...

winmill1 09-30-2012 07:58 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
I do watch the games every play and he has dropped many passes that he usually catches. The stat is the stat. He has been dropping for him a high amount of balls. It's unusual.

Jamessr 09-30-2012 07:58 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
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Originally Posted by winmill1 (Post 444692)
It seems like he isn't trying and his fire is gone. I was wondering as well. It seems like he is afraid to take a hit now

I 100% disagree with you on this. JG has dropped a few passes nothing to get fired up over that. Plus it's just not the same when you're 0-4 and the other teams just has to point to the score boards...

We start winning the Beast Jimmy Graham will come back out

winmill1 09-30-2012 07:59 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
It looks like he is hearing footsteps, I have always worried about the big hits he takes and I think the one against Washington has stayed with him.

winmill1 09-30-2012 08:01 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
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Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 444846)
I 100% disagree with you on this. JG has dropped a few passes nothing to get fired up over that. Plus it's just not the same when you're 0-4 and the other teams just has to point to the score boards...

We start winning the Beast Jimmy Graham will come back out

So he only gets fired up if we are winning. We were winning 24-6 against kc and I didnt see anything. It's more than that. I think he is hiding an injury, maybe his back or the huge collisions are taking a toll.

winmill1 09-30-2012 08:09 PM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
Ok I am not bashing him. Something is off it seems. No matter what he is still top tight end in league. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a concussion week 1.

SaintsBro 10-01-2012 10:51 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
I love Jimmy Graham, one of my favorite Saints, no question about it, so don't get me wrong here for pointing it out -- but sometimes, it seems to me like he is sorta disappearing from games after he gets his touchdown and does the dunk. I blogged about it, originally as kind of a joke -- but people's comments in this thread like "disappearing in the second half" and "doesn't look like he's trying out there" "looks like his fire is gone" are all kinda interesting comments to me. I feel like he generally looks on fire in the beginning of games, completely "normal" insane Jimmy Graham. Then in the 2nd half and end of games, I dunno, it feels sorta like I'm not hearing his name a lot. I can't put my finger on it, or figure it out. But he looks AMAZING early in the games, same as always, to me. It could maybe be a hidden injury that catches up to him, or defensive adjustments during the game, or something else.

papz 10-01-2012 10:59 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
...or we just didn't make a big effort to get him the ball in the second half. He can't make plays if they ball isn't being thrown to him.

Mardigras9 10-01-2012 11:11 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
He has taken some big licks. When he is one of maybe two weapons the opposition has to make adjustments for usually, it's easy to make him less of a factor. Who didn't know Brees was going to throw the quick slant to him on the goal line?

Rugby Saint II 10-01-2012 11:14 AM

Re: Jimmy Graham
 
Graham looks like he is in a tunnel. That's what happens if you get a concussion. Everything is slowed down.


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