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Budsdrinker 10-02-2012 08:17 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 445597)
I believe in Ingram... but you can expect this reply if it is just the O-Line...

PT can do it.

The difference like someone else pointed out is when PT is in they have to respect the screen pass, when Ingram is in 99% of the time it's a run up the gut and defenses know this.

TheOak 10-02-2012 08:19 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 445600)
The difference like someone else pointed out is when PT is in they have to respect the screen pass, when Ingram is in 99% of the time it's a run up the gut and defenses know this.

Which I have stated in this thread... And many others... I even posted the stats last week proving it...

Info coming round full circle, at least I know my posts are being read LOL.

Budsdrinker 10-02-2012 08:24 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 445601)
Which I have stated in this thread... And many others... I even posted the stats last week proving it...

Info coming round full circle, at least I know my posts are being read LOL.

I read everybody's comments, just sometimes I forget who posts them and too lazy to go back to give them the credit but you know who you are!:drink:

TheOak 10-02-2012 08:26 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 445604)
I read everybody's comments, just sometimes I forget who posts them and too lazy to go back to give them the credit but you know who you are!:drink:

Trust me.. I understand:givemebeer:

Danno 10-02-2012 08:26 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 445597)
I believe in Ingram... but you can expect this reply if it is just the O-Line...

PT can do it.

Last two games combined...

Ingram - 10 carries, 22 yards 2.2 average
Pierre - 15 carries, 25 yards, 1.8 average

And as others have said, PT is one of the best RB's in the entire league. And Pierre is used more as a receiver and also on passing downs. PT doesn't face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram does.

TheOak 10-02-2012 08:28 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 445607)
Last two games combined...

Ingram - 10 carries, 22 yards 2.2 average
Pierre - 15 carries, 25 yards, 1.8 average

And as others have said, PT is one of the best RB's in the entire league. And Pierre is used more as a receiver and also on passing downs. PT doesn't face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram does.

Ill flip it on you. Pierre is not put in to face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram is :-)

Danno 10-02-2012 08:29 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by papz (Post 445598)
I'm the opposite. It's the system for me.

I do believe in any other system, he's a thousand yard back.

System? Or playcalling? Or how the team is built?

Its no secret our O-line pass protects much better than it run blocks. Maybe that is "system", but I think thats more "style". Maybe we're talking about the same thing but just using different terms.

Danno 10-02-2012 08:30 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 445610)
Ill flip it on you. Pierre is not put in to face as many 8 man fronts as Ingram is :-)

I like your wording better.

Speedy Ron 10-02-2012 08:31 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
it easy to make runs around the edges in college. the hash marks are spread farther apart and anyone can get 3-4 yds around the corner with decent speed.

TheOak 10-02-2012 08:40 AM

Re: Whats wrong with Mark Ingram / Reggie Bush In Our System ( Visual Proof )
 
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Originally Posted by Speedy Ron (Post 445613)
it easy to make runs around the edges in college. the hash marks are spread farther apart and anyone can get 3-4 yds around the corner with decent speed.

As we saw with Bush.. The NFL is a lot faster league. Pure speed doesnt always work.. you have to be able to read, anticipate, and have some patience.


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