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jcp026 10-03-2012 08:03 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
Are the Saints ruining Mark Ingram? Yes.

GeauxForMore 10-03-2012 08:24 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
Look what Bush has been doing with the Dolphins. I been saying it for years that we can't run block. Ingram won't get the ball much and when he does 70% of the time it's a run.

TheOak 10-03-2012 08:48 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore (Post 445962)
Look what Bush has been doing with the Dolphins. I been saying it for years that we can't run block. Ingram won't get the ball much and when he does 70% of the time it's a run.

Bush and Ingram are two different type Rb's. PT and Ivory had no issues with our line... Miami's o-line is mediocre at best and not better than ours.

Bush was injury prone. Where is he this week? Game time decision.

It does not look like rivers is doing his thing this year based on stats.. Chargers 23rd in pasing.... 17th in rushing

Rugby Saint II 10-03-2012 01:57 PM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
He was an after thought.........Payton promised his son he would get him and I think caved to pressure from his son after we chose Jordan. Seriously, he wasn't the right choice. He is more old school Payton era.....when he liked a power back and a finesse back.
When he was chosen Sproles wasn't in the mix yet and Ivory had injury issues. Now we have Cadet as well.
This cat needs 25 or more touches a game.
I love him and think that he is being misused and needs to be traded to a team where his value is relative. Ingram reminds me so much of Emmitt Smith.
Another bad first round choice for the Saints.

TheOak 10-03-2012 02:03 PM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 446063)
He was an after thought.........Payton promised his son he would get him and I think caved to pressure from his son after we chose Jordan. Seriously, he wasn't the right choice. He is more old school Payton era.....when he liked a power back and a finesse back.
When he was chosen Sproles wasn't in the mix yet and Ivory had injury issues. Now we have Cadet as well.
This cat needs 25 or more touches a game.
I love him and think that he is being misused and needs to be traded to a team where his value is relative. Ingram reminds me so much of Emmitt Smith.
Another bad first round choice for the Saints.

I agree except... Dont trade him so he can get 25 touches against us in a game.

Let him sit in Ivorys place for a while.

jeanpierre 10-03-2012 10:42 PM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
Gotta say that this question/comment has been bothering me since I read it today...

Finished tasks at work, went bowling, came in and saw the thread, again...

Well, this is my honest response...

Really Good and Great Players adapt and succeed regardless of the circumstances...

He needs to earn, warrant his selection as a first round pick and the extra pick it took to move up and get him...

While the previous post that he draws a crowd allowing play action pass is true, if he doesn't start tearing off 20 yard runs, opposing defenses will stop respecting his game...

The Dude 10-03-2012 10:49 PM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
I don't think it is ruining his career per say, but I think we are not using him in the right way. I have a feeling if he was on another team we would see a different player. Kind of like how Reggie is doing in Miami. I think it has something to do with rytem and the fact he does not get the snaps to get into a groove. He really isn't needed here. I have been reluctant to say that he was overrated or a "bust", but I think it might not have been smart to draft a back that wasn't really needed on this team

Ashley 10-03-2012 11:12 PM

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well all know this, nothing new.


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