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Beastmode 10-04-2012 12:53 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
Hate to say this but it would take someone going down to understand how good he can be. He can run screens, quite well in fact. He can also hit the corners hard and punish people. And if he gets through he will make people miss. That's probably his greatest strength, the ability to cut. I imagine he must be getting frustrated knowing what he can do and doing what they tell him to do.

AlaskaSaints 10-04-2012 02:41 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
Original Question:

No, but if we keep utilizing Mark Ingram as he HAS been utilized, Mark Ingram will RUIN the New Orleans Saints.

Alaska

Beastmode 10-04-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
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Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 446277)
Original Question:

No, but if we keep utilizing Mark Ingram as he HAS been utilized, Mark Ingram will RUIN the New Orleans Saints.

Alaska

He won't ruin it. That's on the coach. What RB is going to have any success running the same exact couple of plays over and over. He ran lots of screens in college to perfection! What he didn't do well at is exactly what he's doing right now. Sound familar?

He had mad stats in college but running straight into a stout D-line like LSU he struggled. If the Saints continue to do that he won't be getting the 2 yard avg anymore. This is entirely on the coaches. I think they will address this the next few games.

spkb25 10-04-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 445902)
Ingram played just 13 snaps on Sunday, producing a totally ineffective 11 yards rushing on five carries (he also had one catch for negative-1 yard). He seemed hesitant when he had the football, but is the Saints’ play-calling to blame? New Orleans ran 42 offensive plays on second, third or fourth down Sunday in Green Bay — only four were runs, and just one by Ingram. That’s way too predictable, and it helps explain why Ingram seems totally misused so far this season.

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I dont 100% disagree, plus, in my opinion MI is the type of back that probably gets better with more carries. Our line hasn't opened a ton of holes, and the ones they do for PT is in part his skill, but also his dangerousness out of the backfield on screens.

TheOak 10-04-2012 10:19 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
The answer to the OP is, no more than we ruined Bush.

TheOak 10-04-2012 10:20 AM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
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Originally Posted by Mikemike (Post 446156)
That's all about brees and extending his records...and not necessarily just the unitas one.

I do not agree, he already had a TD in that game and a 2 yard pass doesn't boost any records.

Shoe. 10-04-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 446345)
I do not agree, he already had a TD in that game and a 2 yard pass doesn't boost any records.

Yes, especially when

A) Saints are on the 4 yard line w/ goal to go

B) Ingram average 2.5 YPC

DO THE MATH.

yet we passed three times using the excuse, "Brees was hot."

Ask any successful blackjack player or gambler about "getting hot" versus playing the statistics and they'll tell you that in the end, the statistics fail far less than a "hot streak" does.

TheOak 10-04-2012 12:29 PM

Re: Is the Saints’ offense ruining Mark Ingram?:
 
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Originally Posted by Shoe. (Post 446349)
Yes, especially when

A) Saints are on the 4 yard line w/ goal to go

B) Ingram average 2.5 YPC

DO THE MATH.

yet we passed three times using the excuse, "Brees was hot."

Ask any successful blackjack player or gambler about "getting hot" versus playing the statistics and they'll tell you that in the end, the statistics fail far less than a "hot streak" does.

I am not sure what in sam hill you are talking about... I simply stated I do not think he was throwing to boost stats or effect records.

Brees is always "hot" when he is not running for his life.. His receivers hands... well that looks like hot potato lately.


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