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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Mardigras9 Hell put Shanle on the already ineffective D-line, at least he won't get in anyones way. Not a bad idea. SInce he spends most of his time lying down on the field, this would give him ...

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Old 10-05-2012, 03:53 PM   #11
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Hell put Shanle on the already ineffective D-line, at least he won't get in anyones way.
Not a bad idea. SInce he spends most of his time lying down on the field, this would give him some good opportunities to try and trip the rb's.
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Shanle can't tackle, he can't cover and he can't rush. The best place for Shanle is on the bench. That is where he can do the most good. I agree. Put Wilson in, take Shanle out.
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Shanle can't tackle, he can't cover and he can't rush. The best place for Shanle is on the bench. That is where he can do the most good. I agree. Put Wilson in, take Shanle out.
We had a discussion a while back in another thread about how Shanle isn't great, or smart, but he's the one of the best and smartest we have.

So seriously folks, if Scott Shanle is the best that our FO can bring in for three years, and he's been on the team for six, then its time for them to take a long look in the mirror for where the problems are
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Martez Wilson is a late 3rd round draft pick that's been hyped since the day he was drafted as some sort of super hero. Maybe he just isn't that good.
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Martez Wilson is a late 3rd round draft pick that's been hyped since the day he was drafted as some sort of super hero. Maybe he just isn't that good.
That may be but he can't be any worse than Shanle, and at least he's fast.
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Originally Posted by Shoe. View Post
We had a discussion a while back in another thread about how Shanle isn't great, or smart, but he's the one of the best and smartest we have.

So seriously folks, if Scott Shanle is the best that our FO can bring in for three years, and he's been on the team for six, then its time for them to take a long look in the mirror for where the problems are
Agree with every word except the bold. Shanle is an extremely smart player and will likely go on and become a coach.

I remember a player (or coach) 2 years ago comment that a lot of times Shanle will see someone out of position on a play and runs to where the broken assignment is, often too late. People mistake that as Shanle was slow and out of position when in fact he knew the other player blew his assignment and tried to help out, but couldn't get there in time.

Shanle may be the smartest player we have on defense.
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Old 10-05-2012, 06:14 PM   #17
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Martez is focused on learning to play DE... and he'll do a great job in given time. When our coaches are back next season things will get a lot better. He played MLB in college and now he's a DE... asking him to abandon that and now play WLB wouldn't solve a damn thing. He'd be completely lost. Let's just let the kid develop where he is and I have faith that he'll be a damn fine pass-rushing DE in the near future.
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Question why did we let Jo Lon Dunbar go ?
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Old 10-05-2012, 07:11 PM   #19
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Question why did we let Jo Lon Dunbar go ?
Because we had a healthy linebacking corp at the time. And Lofton.
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:34 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by Boutte View Post
Martez Wilson is a late 3rd round draft pick that's been hyped since the day he was drafted as some sort of super hero. Maybe he just isn't that good.
The reason he's been hyped is because he was a first round talent who dropped because of health concerns. He was raw even in college, but made a lot of tackles and big plays. He has a size and speed combination that really isn't paralleled, even in this league. Physically he's a freak.

The problem is that he was barely given a chance to play last year, and this year he had to learn a new system AND switch positions. I'd hoped it would work out a little better, but I am not surprised he's taking slow to it. At this point though, his speed needs to be on the field regardless of how out of position he may be. There is nothing to lose by trying.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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