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SapperSaint 10-05-2012 08:20 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
Marino, Favre, Brady, Manning, Starbach, Akin, Elway, Montana, Bradshaw.

These are great QB's. This is a list of HOF'ers and future HOF'ers.

They never tied Johnny.

As far as individual stats go; Drew has the potential to break all the QB records. As unhappy as I was about the contract thing; I am happy for him and hope he gets it.

Budsdrinker 10-05-2012 09:55 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
Yep, like others have said. You can tie the record in 3 years so if it's so easy to do with this new pass happy league every QB in the league since 2009 should be tying it by the reporter's thinking.

Dasidreidia 10-05-2012 10:32 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
I completely agree with those who've said that if it was easy, it'd have been done by now. (And I especially liked 656's post.)

Now to address the reporter. What's to stop Drew from taking the streak to 63?

Papa Voodoo 10-05-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
Of course it is, but if he keeps going then he will surpass Unitas...maybe 58?

Mardigras9 10-05-2012 11:22 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 446560)
The record stood for 50+ years for damn good reason, it was a great accomplishment. If the changes in the game made that big a difference, you would have seen Montana, Marino, Kelly, et... all challenging that record. If the era mattered so much, why hasn't Brady, Manning or Rodgers come close to the record? Because it's damn hard to do regardless of when you played, that's why.

Nah, nothing takes away from or diminishes Brees breaking this record. It's damn hard to do anything consecutively in professional sports, let alone throw a TD in 47 consecutive games.

Agreed, the record stood for so long for good reason. We are watching the first Saint hall of fame QB, just enjoy it while we have it.

jeanpierre 10-05-2012 11:26 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
I wonder if Alok Pattani considered the converse of his argument when comparing Johnny U and Brees?

How many teams in the Unitas era had defenses prepared to stop the pass?

How many teams had truly quality defensive backs that could cover receivers?

How much time did Unitas have to read and throw versus Brees' time against the pass rush of today?

SaintnDE 10-05-2012 11:50 AM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 446650)
I wonder if Alok Pattani considered the converse of his argument when comparing Johnny U and Brees?

How many teams in the Unitas era had defenses prepared to stop the pass?

How many teams had truly quality defensive backs that could cover receivers?

How much time did Unitas have to read and throw versus Brees' time against the pass rush of today?

I mentioned this yesterday to my co-workers and they slammed their lips shut and had to walk away.

Boltsfan619 10-05-2012 04:24 PM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
The NFL has changed so much over the years... trying to compare today's greats to past greats just isn't fair to anyone involved.

Today's players I believe as a whole are better then era’s past... there is more publicity for the sport than ever before, which has led to more people dreaming of being there, and more chances to compete in local leagues, school leagues, the NCAA to build skills, and then go pro… the process weeds out a lot more people who might have made it in the past. And there is a LOT more money.., elite athletes have opportunities to make millions now where as there was a time where offseason stuff wouldn't happen because players had to work 9-5 jobs most of the year... and wouldn't get by without those jobs.

I remember when Tomlinson broke the most points in a single season record... the player who had it before was saying "I did it in less games"... IIRC (and I could be wrong) that former player was the kicker as well as the one scoring the points... so he would get the PATs and the FGs as well... Trying to compare the two men was not fair to either of them. The era's of the game were to different.

Despite that... Tomlinson celebrating that record was one of the greatest sports moments of my life... and Saints fans will and should say the same thing about Brees if he breaks the record. (more likely than not he will, but in the NFL there are no guarantees).

The past players built the league for today's players and fans... and in 30 years when the players are even bigger faster and stronger than they are now... they will be asking the same thing when Brees, Tomlinson, Peterson, Brady, etc have their records broken... It is an accomplishment no matter what era it happens in but a past players record being broken shouldn't reflect badly on those legends... we never will know what they would be like if they played today.

Wilde18 10-05-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 446551)
I do not agree with your opinion but respect it. I seriously think Drew would rather take 4-0 with no record over 0-4 with it. Obviously this cannot ever be verified, but the year Drew had a chance at breaking the season passing yards and the Saints were out of it, he seriously under threw his WR and the record didn't happen. To this day I believe that was intentional.

I sign off on this, matt!!!

Joker 10-05-2012 05:48 PM

Re: Is Brees' streak diminished by era?
 
The rules in the way a DB can cover a wide receiver have changed since Marino, Elway, Montana, Favre to that era of football maybe diminished a little. From the Unitas days OMG I would say it's changed tremendously, has it diminished Drew's accomplishments, no way he still had to throw the ball.


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