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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by blackangold I think his point was more geared on the fact we think Loomis is amazing because of the deep reaches that have come through, but the reality is we have had opportunities to take amazing players ...

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:00 PM   #31
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I think his point was more geared on the fact we think Loomis is amazing because of the deep reaches that have come through, but the reality is we have had opportunities to take amazing players in the 1st round and passed up on them.
That would be fine, except thats not what he said, and its not what I was responding to.

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That would be fine, except thats not what he said, and its not what I was responding to.

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Not sure what your responding to then...

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:11 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Not sure what your responding to then...

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On 2nd tought, you have a valid counter-point.

12 picks and only 1 pro-bowler - Not outstanding

but

12 picks and only 1 bust - Outstanding

And I thought Smith and Grant made it one year as alternates?
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On 2nd tought, you have a valid counter-point.

12 picks and only 1 pro-bowler - Not outstanding

but

12 picks and only 1 bust - Outstanding

And I thought Smith and Grant made it one year as alternates?
They may have... can't remember too well.

Not saying Loomis is crap, his contract organization is outstanding. Maybe he needs some new scouts out there giving him better advice during the draft.

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Old 10-07-2012, 05:34 PM   #35
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We signed Brees, the Dolphins signed Culpepper, enough said.
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Originally Posted by jcp026 View Post
Stallworth = Awful
Grant = Awful
Sullivan = One of the worst picks ever.
Smith = Solid
Brown = Solid
Bush = Got a ring in N.O., but produces more in MIA
Meachem = Not great.
Ellis = Hasn't been great.
Jenkins, Robinson, Jordan, and Ingram = Jury is still out.
Stallworth = Runs people over
Grant = Oversized Flavor Flav
Sullivan = "BFI" (Don't have to tell you what that means)
Smith = Stud
Brown = Stud
Bush = Inherited a crouded backfield that got even more crowded
Meachem = I'ight
Ellis = Waste
The other four = (Just as jcp026 said....)
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All terrible except for Will Smith, who is decent.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:01 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by jcp026 View Post
Stallworth = Awful
Grant = Awful
Sullivan = One of the worst picks ever.
Smith = Solid
Brown = Solid
Bush = Got a ring in N.O., but produces more in MIA
Meachem = Not great.
Ellis = Hasn't been great.
Jenkins, Robinson, Jordan, and Ingram = Jury is still out.

I can agree with most but Grant? Grant was a solid DE for us.
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Re: Saints First Round Picks Since 2002

Loomis gets the Golden Rod award by nature of trickle down effect.

Loomis
Brought in Payton

Payton
Brought in Brees/Graham/Colston/Moore/P. Thomas... Payton has had a huge say in all drafts and personnel since 2006. It is his team to build.

Brees
Brought in Sproles, did the development on Graham... Camarillo yet to be determined

Argue all you want.... It is what it is.
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
They may have... can't remember too well.

Not saying Loomis is crap, his contract organization is outstanding. Maybe he needs some new scouts out there giving him better advice during the draft.

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And it's the talent acquisitions and assessments that's made me draw the conclusion that Loomis and football mgt staff was overrated...

I will acknowledge he's one of the better "cap-ologist" in the league - which makes me think he's dying over the Tom Condon Contract...

But the talent evaluations and value assessments are not on par with our coaching...
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