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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Halo I think Spags saw his career and reputation going down the toilet so he threw the proverbial "Kitchen Sink" at the issue: I saw different formations and players at different positions throughout the game We ran ...

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Old 10-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #11
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Re: Defense Gradually getting better

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I think Spags saw his career and reputation going down the toilet so he threw the proverbial "Kitchen Sink" at the issue:
  • I saw different formations and players at different positions throughout the game
  • We ran more blitz in the game and looked similar to last year's defense
  • Cory White probably started because Jabari Greer was screwing up at CB in practice this week
  • Spags was livid on the sidelines the entire game and appears to have lost his patience with this group
  • Finally in the 4th quarter, with the combination of Wilson and Gallette at both ends, I do not remember the exact defensive backfield personnel, but something happened

Spags threw "the book" at "it" including techniques and personnel.
YES I did see d-linemen spinning off the line to break free to get pressure on Rivers. I give props to the defense for trying just about anything LIVE, in-game, to determine what WORKS for them.

Finally, yes the defense had awful moments too, but I've only seen improvement from 1st two games of the season.

Intangibles like "bad play-calling" and "borderline calls" -- I would argue some other "borderline calls" like hands to the face on Wilson in the 4th, and others, KEPT drives alive for the Chargers. I accept those as part of the game now that we have the regular refs back.
Spags started doing what we have done for the last 3 years... Confuse the sh1t out of the offense. Sadly it confused the sh1t out of our defense weeks 1-4.
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The defense has averaged 456 yds/gm Last night they allowed 427, which means they are still ranked 32nd in yards allowed. They did get better with points allowed. Holding the chargers to 24 pts allowed them to move into 29th averaging 30.8 pts/gm
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Do we care if anyone runs up and down the field... Not much. As long as they are not getting into the endzone I really dont care.

I dont look at yards allowed much. I focus more on turnover ratio/ points allowed/ sacks, and 3rd down %.
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Do we care if anyone runs up and down the field... Not much. As long as they are not getting into the endzone I really dont care.

I dont look at yards allowed much. I focus more on turnover ratio/ points allowed/ sacks, and 3rd down %.
This is what I'm talking about. Even though I hate to see opponents gashing us in the middle of the field.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:23 PM   #15
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Nobody has been harder on the defense than me.

Last night we gave up, what 354 yards passing? 80 Rushing? Some questionable calls or Rivers would have been OVER 400 yards passing people. That's not good.

Still, we were able to get some stops - and some without the help of questionable penalties.

"Gradually"? Okay. I'll go with that. Our defense has a LONG way to go, but I'll take "gradually" over nothing at all. My expectations are truly that low these days.
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They'd have looked really good without the first down and third and long plays added in. Still plenty of season left though, c'mon D you can do it!
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Our Red Zone efficiency is 59%. 14th in the league.
last year we were a whole 2% better

Red Zone scoring attempts per game 4.4 3oth in the league.

So we met them get there horribly but stop them better than 1/2 of the league
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Spags will figure out whats best and I think that it is Gallette and Wilson on the outside.
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I saw a hugh change from week 1. I'm not satisfied but ATM I'm content.
I'm still waiting for that one week that the defense will wake up and just maul the offense. I really liked the last 2 mins... Defense did thier job!
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
Do we care if anyone runs up and down the field... Not much. As long as they are not getting into the endzone I really dont care.

I dont look at yards allowed much. I focus more on turnover ratio/ points allowed/ sacks, and 3rd down %.
Yes. We do. Because field position IS important. Shutting someone down, even if only every now and then, has a huge impact on momentum. Our offense can overcome bad field position, but that doesn't mean it isn't important.
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