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NFL re-issues bounty discipline**UPDATED**

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; LOL at the whole "Dunta Robinson never speared any wide reciever" statement and then the Youtube clip. I don't know this Radical dude very well but I'd say he got schooled pretty bad, LOL....

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Old 10-10-2012, 06:26 AM   #71
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LOL at the whole "Dunta Robinson never speared any wide reciever" statement and then the Youtube clip. I don't know this Radical dude very well but I'd say he got schooled pretty bad, LOL.
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Old 10-10-2012, 06:30 AM   #72
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I am going to go with : What is a pole weapon consisting of a shaft, usually of wood, with a pointed head.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:47 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by Radical View Post
What's there to argue? If the guy who was in charge of it all is admitting to it, what more needs to be said. So far, I've been given nothing but semantics games. You got a guy telling his players to go take out another player's ACL, people paying money for knocking players out of the game, etc.

The insanity of some of the stuff I've read from Saints fans since the start sounds about like the crap I was reading when the dog fighting case broke with Vick. It was all a big conspiracy theory, etc.
Answer me this:

Do you think Mike Nolan coaches his defense to hit offensive players as hard as they can? Or do you think he tells them "don't hit them as hard as you can because you may hurt someone"?


And about the Williams speech: a lot has been made about that speech, and how Williams instructed his players to tear Michael Crabtree's ACL, kill Frank Gore's head and the body will die, etc etc etc Ok.. well, Crabtree's ACL was fine and dandy after the game. So was Frank Gore's head. If the Saints actually wanted to tear Crabtree's ACL, they could've. Look how easily the Jets hurt Reggie and Cushing in back to back games, and they even said they were going to do it (dotting players, putting hot sauce on players).

Off course, then some things come out, like how the Chiefs have "kill the head and the body will die" painted on a wall. The very NFLN had a segment about the Chiefs that brought this to light. They also ran a promo for their Sounds of the Game show where a 49er coach is telling his linemen "knock the piss out of him" (hmm wonder what that means)... I remember Mike Tomlin screaming at his defense "tear his f*ing head off" during a game I was watching (a very specific body part too)... and it makes you wonder, what do other teams say during their defensive meetings? Wouldn't it be interesting to hear the audio of the other 31 teams during a defensive meeting? What do you think they say or do?

And you didn't say anything regardingt Mike Smith's comments and how he coaches his players to spear defenseless WRs. No comment? Are you agreeing Mike Smith coaches his players to intentionally injure players?

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Old 10-10-2012, 10:51 AM   #74
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Dunta Robinson never speared any WR.
Oh, oh.. I missed this before my last response. You have got to be kidding me.
Someone already posted the video. We know he was warned for one, then fined big for a second, then fined even more for a 3rd, in a sapn of 4-5 games.

It is pointless to talk to you any further.
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Old 10-10-2012, 11:34 AM   #75
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The NFL needs a leader that knows something about NFL football. If nothing else, this is painfully obvious.
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:56 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by saintfan View Post
The NFL needs a leader that knows something about NFL football. If nothing else, this is painfully obvious.
I have always said that for some one to be Commander in Chief, they must have been Commanded.

Only those that have been sent to their possible death truly understand the gravity of sending someone to their possible death.
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:06 PM   #78
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Anyone else surmise that Vilma was allowed to keep 6 weeks salary so we would take a cap hit?
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Old 10-10-2012, 03:11 PM   #79
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Here's a video of Dunta Robinson spearing two wide receivers.

Dunta Robinson Illegal Helmet To Helmet Hit On Jeremy Maclin Falcons Vs Eagles - YouTube

Sure looks like he's using this helmet as a weapon to lay out those receivers.

League must've thought so too. They fined him $25,000 for the first one and $40,000 for the second one.

And coach Mike Smith's response to reporters about the hits was "That's the way we teach it"
And in neither case, the word spearing didn't come up. In the Jackson hit, it was for hitting a "defenseless" receiver, and in the Maclin case, it was for a helmet to helmet hit and for hitting a defenseless receiver. Against Jackson, it wasn't even a helmet to helmet hit, nor did he makes initial contact with his helmet, so again, it isn't spearing.

And of course, Smith's quote is in reference to hitting "defenseless" receivers, not making helmet to helmet hits, which again only happened on one of those plays.
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And in neither case, the word spearing didn't come up. In the Jackson hit, it was for hitting a "defenseless" receiver, and in the Maclin case, it was for a helmet to helmet hit and for hitting a defenseless receiver. Against Jackson, it wasn't even a helmet to helmet hit, nor did he makes initial contact with his helmet, so again, it isn't spearing.

And of course, Smith's quote is in reference to hitting "defenseless" receivers, not making helmet to helmet hits, which again only happened on one of those plays.
You should just stop. Really... stop.

Helmet to helmet is not a spear? What did he lead with, his coccyx?

Unlike Atlanta fans apparently, we do not need Youtube to define football actions.
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