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TheOak 10-16-2012 03:00 PM

Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Surely we can find something in here:

Defensive Line
Sylvester Williams, DT-NT, North Carolina: Williams made an immediate impact for the Tar Heels last season after transferring from Coffeyville College. He's an explosive tackle who holds his ground and easily controls the line of scrimmage. The ability to be placed at a conventional tackle position or on the nose enhances the value of this first-round prospect.
Akeem Spence*, DT, Illinois: Spence has been a force for Illinois since his freshman season and a playmaker in every sense. He combines quickness, athleticism and speed to rush the passer or pursue the run. Illinois has placed a pair of defensive linemen in the first round during each of the past two draft's and Spence is poised to extend the streak.
Kawann Short, DT, Purdue: Short received first round consideration from a number of scouts at the end of last season, yet chose to return to Purdue for his senior campaign. He's a quick interior lineman who's tough to stop from the snap of the ball. Short offers possibilities at several defensive line spots for a variety of NFL systems.
Johnathan Hankins*, DT-NT, Ohio State: Hankins presents himself as a dominant force and looks like a man amongst boys on any given Saturday. His combination of size and strength is complimented by uncanny movement skills and athleticism. The sky is the limit for Hankins, who must round out his game and play hard on every down to reach the potential NFL scouts believe he possesses.
Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: Lotulelei is an enormous talent who reminds many of Haloti Ngata. He's a big-bodied tackle who overwhelms opponents in the middle of the field while also showing the ability to easily pursue the action down the line of scrimmage. Lotulelei needs technical work on his game, but a big senior campaign could push him into the upper half of round one.
Jackson Jeffcoat*, DE, Texas: Jeffcoat is the first defensive end on our list, and some believe he'll be best as a 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL. He's a forceful athlete who demolishes blocks and disrupts plays behind the line of scrimmage. His 21 tackles for loss and 71 overall tackles last season are a testament to Jeffcoat's ability to make plays all over the field.
Sleeper: Abry Jones, DL, Georgia: Jones could be the most understated defensive lineman in the nation. He's a terrific athlete with NFL size and the ability to line up at defensive tackle or as a two-gap end. Jones beats blockers off the snap of the ball and makes plays up the field or in backside pursuit. Opponents constantly focus on Jones in an effort to slow him down, which affords teammates the opportunity to make plays on the ball. He's very much the complete package and a three-down defender.

Linebacker

Barkevious Mingo*, LB-DE, LSU: Mingo is one of the most dominant defenders in the nation and could well be a top-5 pick next April. He's a ferocious pass rusher who also efficiently makes plays in space. Mingo is impossible to block and pursues the action with speed from every direction. He offers potential at a variety of front seven positions and will continue to rise up draft boards as he improves his game.
Manti Te'o, MLB, Notre Dame: Te'o was considered a first-round talent last April but publically stated a desire to continue his college experience when announcing his return to Notre Dame. He's a forceful run stopper who plays with great instincts and competes hard. Te'o will certainly end up in the draft's first 20 selections, considering his talent and the lack of depth at middle linebacker.
Jarvis Jones*, OLB, Georgia: Jones made an immediate impact for the Bulldogs after transferring from USC and was one of the nation's most feared pass rushers in 2011. He's incredibly athletic and much more than just a pass rusher. Jones displays skill pursuing the action or covering backs and tight ends down field. He's a terrific outside linebacker prospect with potential for a number of defensive systems at the next level.
Devon Kennard*, OLB, USC: Kennard was overshadowed by former teammate and first-round pick Nick Perry last season, but the fact is he's a better football player. Kennard is very athletic, but at the same time plays with good instincts and discipline. He offers potential at outside linebacker in a conventional scheme or a 3-4 alignment. Kennard carries a first-round grade, but his upcoming season may be in jeopardy due to a recent pectoral injury.
Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State: Brown has been dominant for Kansas State and is a three-down defender with a complete game. He sells out defending the run, shows great skill pursuing the action sideline-to-sideline and easily runs with backs or tight ends in coverage. Slightly undersized, he reminds many of Ray Lewis in style and substance.
Sleeper: Hayes Pullard*, LB, USC: Hayes is another Trojan linebacker with great potential for the next level. He's incredibly athletic, fast and quickly moves sideline-to-sideline pursuing the action or covering the pass. Pullard lacks classic size, but has all the tools necessary to start at weakside linebacker in the NFL.

Defensive Backs

Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois: Hawthorne may be the surprise choice at the top of the secondary list, but he's a shutdown cornerback with the ability to quickly start in the NFL. He offers size, speed and plays smart football. Hawthorne displayed tremendous improvement each of the past two years and he's a polished cornerback with a large upside.
T.J. McDonald, S, USC: McDonald is a game-impacting defensive back when running on all cylinders. He's a forceful run defender who possesses next-level ball skills and the ability to play sideline-to-sideline. McDonald seemingly plays half speed at times, which has raised red flags. If the light goes on in 2012, McDonald could be an early first-round pick next April.
Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia: Commings was overshadowed by Brandon Boykin at Georgia last year, but will end up being selected earlier in the draft than his former teammate (Boykin was a fourth-round pick, 123rd overall). Commings offers next-level ball skills and has the size NFL scouts want in an NFL starter.
Tyrann Mathieu*, CB, ex-LSU: Mathieu has been in the news for all the wrong reasons recently, but on the field there's no denying his ability. He refuses to back down to a challenge and possesses top cover skills along with the ability to impact games as a return specialist. Recent off-the-field issues coupled with size concerns will assuredly knock Mathieu down draft boards.
David Amerson*, CB, North Carolina State: Amerson's statistics are eye-popping; an ACC-leading 13 interceptions last season after just a single pass break-up in 2010. He's an opportunistic ballhawk in the secondary who consistently puts himself in a position to make plays on the pass. Amerson is also a cornerback who needs to improve his fundamentals if he wants to be a first-round choice in the near future.
Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, UConn: Wreh-Wilson struggled with a knee injury in 2011 and saw his season reduced to just eight games. When fully healthy, he was dominant throughout his sophomore campaign of 2010. He's an aggressive cornerback who physically beats down opponents and possesses top ball skills. Wreh-Wilson will vault up draft boards if he gets his game back on track and proves his health this season.
Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State: Banks is well thought of by league scouts, who like his size and smarts. He lacks elite playing speed, but can be a productive nickel back or potential starter in the right system.
Sleeper: D.J. Swearinger, S, South Carolina: Swearinger is not rated as the top defensive back on the South Carolina squad, but his game stands out on film. He's a complete safety who makes plays against the pass in deep centerfield while also forcefully defending the run up the field. Swearinger lacks classic safety size but gets the most from his ability.

TheOak 10-16-2012 03:00 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
I say Ingram/Ivory to go up and get Mingo.

NuNu318 10-16-2012 03:01 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 449642)
I say Ingram/Ivory to go up and get Mingo.

Cosign this....

dizzle88 10-16-2012 03:39 PM

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We need a fast athletic OLB and a ball hawking CB, that guy mingo sounds like a good player, we need a playmaker on D

Utah_Saint 10-16-2012 03:43 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 449642)
I say Ingram/Ivory to go up and get Mingo.

If the Saints don't turn things around soon, they may not have to move up to get him.

SmashMouth 10-16-2012 05:32 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Eric Reid of LSU?

Danno 10-16-2012 05:45 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
I'm curious, as someone else pointed out, if Mingo is such a dominant player how come he only has 12 solo tackles and a measly 2 sacks through 7 games?

I've only seen him play twice this year, so I'm curious as to why he has such a fine reputation.

TheOak 10-16-2012 06:57 PM

Why do I think Blazing Saddles every time I hear Mingo?

hagan714 10-16-2012 07:10 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State: FS slide Jenkins to SS

Kawann Short, DT, Purdue: i really like his play he is #2 on my DT big board

Jarvis Jones*, OLB, Georgia: SLB

now my none glamor pick goes to

Barrett Jones, C/T/G, Alabama - pencil him at RT for 2013. He plays center now and is doing a great job. People forget he was the tides starting LT last year. lets see he excels in the SEC at OC in the trenches and excelled at LT in 2012 means only one thing in my book. A NFL RT perfect for the saints. To much money invested in Drew not to address RT early in the draft. Who knows maybe LT after a year. doubt it but i will play with the idea. besides if a player goes down he allows you to mix and match all along the line.

pipe dream : Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State - dude plays nasty. old school mentality :twisted:

reality at CB: Xavier Rhodes*, CB, Florida State - physical and good in press coverage

Did i really list two Florida State players? :confused: next thing i will do is list a Tennessee WR i guess :brood:

hagan714 10-16-2012 07:20 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 449710)
I'm curious, as someone else pointed out, if Mingo is such a dominant player how come he only has 12 solo tackles and a measly 2 sacks through 7 games?

I've only seen him play twice this year, so I'm curious as to why he has such a fine reputation.

media hype pass

Rugby Saint II 10-16-2012 07:24 PM

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It needs to be an offensive or defensive tackle!

|Mitch| 10-16-2012 07:32 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 449739)
pipe dream : Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State - dude plays nasty. old school mentality :twisted:

We can dream, can't we?

However, I have seen him mocked to us a time or two...

hagan714 10-16-2012 07:43 PM

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i am dreaming. Werner and Jordan at DE for the saints is a scary mix. they would crush the pocket.

now you need the DT to go with them

|Mitch| 10-16-2012 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 449748)
now you need the DT to go with them

We already have Akiem Hicks, just need another

Utah_Saint 10-16-2012 07:58 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 449735)
Why do I think Blazing Saddles every time I hear Mingo?


papz 10-16-2012 08:17 PM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 449710)
I'm curious, as someone else pointed out, if Mingo is such a dominant player how come he only has 12 solo tackles and a measly 2 sacks through 7 games?

I've only seen him play twice this year, so I'm curious as to why he has such a fine reputation.

Freak athleticism. He certainly hasn't been dominant this year, but there's a reason why he was being mentioned as a potential top 10 pick. He has trouble keeping/putting on weight. He's probably better suited as a 3-4 rush linebacker in the pros. Doesn't look like a good fit here in New Orleans. Should be a more productive pro player than college.

USMwhodat 10-17-2012 07:13 AM

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Te'o and Jarvis Jones should be the 2 LBs on our short list...the DE we really need will not be available until 2014, Jadeveon Clowney! Also Matt Elam from Florida is the safety we should target if we go that route, dude is a baller who can also bring the wood! I say D-line is the first place we need to solidify though, Lotulelei from Utah comes to mind!

TheOak 10-17-2012 07:26 AM

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Mingo's last two years: I highlighted what I saw as the reasoning he is so proclaimed.



One of the fastest defensive ends in America who is poised for an outstanding junior season ... Exceptional length and quickness makes him a terror on opposing quarterbacks, especially on third down passing situations ... Tremendous leadership qualities who was honored with the Tigers' most prestigious spring award in 2012, the Jimmy Taylor Award for outstanding leadership, effort and performance ... Also recipient of the Mike Miley Leadership Award ... Teams with Sam Montgomery to form arguably the best defensive end tandem in college football ... Has played in 27 career games with five starts ... Ranked among the best in the SEC statistically as a sophomore ... Tallied 81 career tackles, a team-best 20.5 tackles for a loss of 134 yards, 10.5 sacks for a loss of 81 yards, 15 quarterback hurries and three forced fumbles ... One of the Tigers' leaders in the community who has read to school kids and visited children's hospital.

SOPHOMORE SEASON (2011)
One of the SEC's most dominant pass rushers who played in all 14 games with four starts ... Backed up Ken Adams early in the season at defensive end ... A second-team All-SEC selection by the Associated Press ... Led the team and ranked third in the SEC in tackles for loss with 15.0 for 93 yards ... Was second on the squad and finished seventh in the SEC in sacks with 8.0 for 60 yards ... His 15.0 tackles for loss ranked ninth in LSU single-season history, while his 8.0 sacks finished ninth as well in single-season school history ... Totaled 46 tackles on the year with 11 quarterback hurries ... Started against Ole Miss, Arkansas, Georgia and Alabama in the BCS Championship Game ... Team-high 1.5 tackles for loss in the BCS title game ... Set a career high with five quarterback hurries in the SEC Championship Game against Georgia ... Posted a career-high three tackles for a loss and two sacks along with one QB hurry against Arkansas ... Posted three solo tackles, including one sack and 2.0 TFLs at Ole Miss ... Set a career high with eight tackles, one sack and a QB hurry versus Western Kentucky ... Named the SEC Defensive Lineman of the Week after tallying a career-high two sacks for a loss of 21 yards with four total tackles and a QB hurry against Auburn ... Posted four tackles, 1.5 tackles for a loss, one sack and one QB hurry against Kentucky ... Recorded one sack and a forced fumble at Mississippi State ... Productive game against Northwestern State as he recorded three tackles, one TFL, one PBU and one QB hurry.
Barkevious Mingo Bio - LSUsports.net - The Official Web Site of LSU Tigers Athletics

halloween 65 10-17-2012 06:38 PM

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A Nose tackle that can collapse the pocket{say bye to Sed "The Egg" Ellis, a mean and nasty O-lineman, a true FS that can actually play and a reciever for Payton for his new plays he will bring, I think we get a LB. in FA. to replace Vilma and probably Shanle, I would like a faster version but just as smart as Shanle, father time has caught up to him, Vilma's version is already there in Lofton.

|Mitch| 10-17-2012 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 449940)
Vilma's version is already there in Lofton.

Actually; Lofton is more of a typical MLB... run-stuffing and has the size to get off blocks

Vilma is a tad small for the position and in his prime had the speed, decent in coverage as well...

I like what Lofton brings to the middle over what Vilma does or did...

lsutigerfan 10-18-2012 04:58 AM

Re: Top prospects of '13 Draft: Defense (Saints needs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 449710)
I'm curious, as someone else pointed out, if Mingo is such a dominant player how come he only has 12 solo tackles and a measly 2 sacks through 7 games?

I've only seen him play twice this year, so I'm curious as to why he has such a fine reputation.

To be honest, the freakish raw talent is there. Last year he was pretty dominate, for some reason he is having a big time down year. IMO at the next level he is best suited to play OLB in a 3-4 system, to play DE in a 4-3 system he is going to have to bulk up.

lsutigerfan 10-18-2012 05:17 AM

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The guys i would love.

DT- Star Lotulelei (love this guy!!!) or Jonathan Hankins
LB-Jarvis Jones (doubtful), Manti Teo or Alec Ogletree
DE- Bjoern Werner (really really love this guy)
CB- Xavier Rhodes.

SapperSaint 10-18-2012 08:28 AM

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I am as big of a Homer as anyone when it comes to LSU. However, I think we could get someone a little better for the money than Mingo. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, and he is fast, but I think if Werner was there and Mingo.... I go with Werner.

TheOak 10-18-2012 08:35 AM

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Freakesh speed and strength... That sounds EXACTLY what we are missing to make Spags defense to work. Pressure and lots of it.

lsutigerfan 10-18-2012 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SapperSaint (Post 449994)
I am as big of a Homer as anyone when it comes to LSU. However, I think we could get someone a little better for the money than Mingo. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, and he is fast, but I think if Werner was there and Mingo.... I go with Werner.

I totally agree, as big an LSU fan that I am, im also a big saints fan
and want to draft the best players

Marlboro Man 10-20-2012 10:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 449642)
I say Ingram/Ivory to go up and get Mingo.

Well, at least Ingram.:D


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