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Old 10-19-2012, 12:58 PM   #11
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Re: PFT: Vilma says NFL won’t produce Williams or Cerullo at appeal hearing

why does subpoena come to mind.
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Re: PFT: Vilma says NFL won’t produce Williams or Cerullo at appeal hearing

Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post
why does subpoena come to mind.
Ginsberg has already had Williams, Cerello, & Der Kommisar served with one... They are still filing documents on those for a decision by the judge.

May as well get the papwerwork submitted for Kennedy & Childress.

May be why the league doesn't want to give Ginsberg a free crack at breaking their testimony...
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Re: PFT: Vilma says NFL won’t produce Williams or Cerullo at appeal hearing

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Ginsberg has already had Williams, Cerello, & Der Kommisar served with one... They are still filing documents on those for a decision by the judge.

May as well get the papwerwork submitted for Kennedy & Childress.

May be why the league doesn't want to give Ginsberg a free crack at breaking their testimony...
They also have one for the lead investigator that quit, Hummel.
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Re: PFT: Vilma says NFL won’t produce Williams or Cerullo at appeal hearing

[QUOTE=Utah_Saint;450327]Apparently, Goodell and crew seem to think “it’s not a court proceeding” equates to "we don't need to be fair, honest or just".

He feels that he got his power from the CBA.
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Re: PFT: Vilma says NFL won’t produce Williams or Cerullo at appeal hearing

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Apparently, Goodell and crew seem to think “it’s not a court proceeding” equates to "we don't need to be fair, honest or just".

He feels that he got his power from the CBA.
Fair and impartial mediation is a reasonalbe expection in any collective bargaining agreement between labor and managment. If one side or the other does not give or get impartial mediation, the court has the authority to step in. That's not just specific to the NFL CBA that's all CBA's.

But I'm probably preaching to the choir here.
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Re: PFT: Vilma says NFL won’t produce Williams or Cerullo at appeal hearing

Let's see if this decision gets reversed now...

If it stands with TAG as arbitrator the court decision is still pending - Ginsberg will use this decision in court as continued bias and unfair process.
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