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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by D_it_up I think the real question is what happened to the run blocking from our offensive line? Our tackles are, well, playing at the same level as the defensive line not being named Bunkley......

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Old 10-22-2012, 06:00 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by D_it_up View Post
I think the real question is what happened to the run blocking from our offensive line?
Our tackles are, well, playing at the same level as the defensive line not being named Bunkley...
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I just feel like I never see Ingram with the ball in space with the chance to make someone miss, and to me its because he is always called on to run the same straight-line play

I'll rewatch the game tonight but it does seem like every run is a straight handoff right up the middle.

The dude had one of the fastest 10 yards splits at the combine. How about some pitchouts or screens?

He's not a fullback, he's a halfback. We need to use him like one.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:23 PM   #13
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How can you pitch out when our Tackles can't make those blocks?!?
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All comes back to not having the best play caller in the nfl on the sidelines. FREE PAYTON!!
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Ingram isn't what he was in college. Not many yds after contact, not as fast, etc. face it...he's just not that good. People were expecting to get Trent Richardson...he's not him. I wish they would showcase him and trade him. Pierre is better
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I'll rewatch the game tonight but it does seem like every run is a straight handoff right up the middle.

The dude had one of the fastest 10 yards splits at the combine. How about some pitchouts or screens?

He's not a fullback, he's a halfback. We need to use him like one.
Yep, as I expected every hand-off was straight up the gut behind a FB, and absolutely no hole at all to squeeze through.

More often than not he's been met on our side of the line.

Our interior sucks at run blocking, absolutely sucks.

BTW, the same thing happened when PT ran between the tackles. On one play he was hit by 3 Bucs while receiving the hand-off.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:20 PM   #17
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I'm not sure that Ingram every had any ground to lose. I've only seen him run one very impressive play where he showed vision, and that was in a pre-season game this year. I'm hoping for the best but I think that was a bum pick, made even worse by the fact that we traded up.
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Square peg round hole. Drew probably wouldn't have done well at the Air Force Academy either. I don't think our current system will ever fit him and I think the competition knows that. He needs to be in a place like Pittsburgh.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:35 PM   #19
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He tripped over his own feet on one run yesterday that was going to be a nice gain. Gotta take advantage of those opportunities. If he breaks that one for 20 yards we are probably not having this conversation.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:47 PM   #20
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One problem I see is the Saints are trying to use Mark Ingram in about the same role they used Deuce McAllister, to a degree. Ingram is a 215lb back, McAllister was listed at around 230, more likely around 250. McAllister simply did not go down easy and got his yards. Ingram is tough as nails, but seriously doesn't really have the bulk to be a short down power back. But like most running backs, gotta give the man the ball in order to get going. Until/if the Saints find a way to get Ingram the ball around 20 times per game, we should all refrain from judgment.
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