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Old 10-22-2012, 09:14 PM   #21
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Re: Ingram, what's wrong.

lets see what happens when we get our line coach back
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:18 PM   #22
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Re: Ingram, what's wrong.

On another note, I saw a play Sunday where we passed the ball with Ingram in the game and got a nice gain out of it. Defense never saw it coming.

While I agree, it is hard to grade our backs because none of them get a decent enough amount of touches to properly analyze, Pierre and Sproles give us our best screen options and as general receivers and each run as good as Ingram. He's depth and nothing more.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:39 PM   #23
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What gets me is we have 5 RB's and we don't know how to use them or Block for them.
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Originally Posted by lynwood View Post
What gets me is we have 5 RB's and we don't know how to use them or Block for them.
Maybe one less RB and one better offensive lineman?

Maybe with Aaron Kromer relieved of his HC responsibilities he'll find some improvements to make in the OL play...
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:47 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Last 4 games...

Pierre Thomas 37-89 2.35 avg
Mark Ingram 22-59 2.68 avg

Whats wrong with Pierre Thomas?
The relevant point is:
We ALL like PT Cruiser
Mark Ingram is not in that club yet.
So until then, ipso facto, Mark Ingram is doing something wrong.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:49 AM   #26
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Originally Posted by lynwood View Post
What gets me is we have 5 RB's and we don't know how to use them or Block for them.
Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Maybe one less RB and one better offensive lineman?....
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:53 AM   #27
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Re: Ingram, what's wrong.

I said this once before in a very ridiculously long tl;dr post, but my gut tells me that we are seeing some kind of weird hybrid "unfinished" thing with Mark Ingram in this offense...that this "1.9 yards and a cloud of dust" over and over ISN'T what Payton wanted from him, or had in mind for him, but Payton didn't get to install it or figure it out or communicate it to Carmichael before the suspension....this CAN'T be what Payton had in mind for him, it looks like a completely different team out there whenever Ingram is in the game...it's just screwy.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:01 AM   #28
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Re: Ingram, what's wrong.

I think someone mentioned it already.
We have too many running backs, and not enough carries to go aroubnd when we have the best QB in the game throwing it 45+ times a game.
I don't expect 100 yard days from any of our guys, but the run game has to be good enough for them to fear it to open up play action
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:21 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Danno View Post
Last 4 games...

Pierre Thomas 37-89 2.35 avg
Mark Ingram 22-59 2.68 avg

Whats wrong with Pierre Thomas?
these are the years stats. The REAL stats:

RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTDPierre Thomas502144.31Mark Ingram441272.91
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTDPierre Thomas502144.31Mark Ingram441272.91PT- 50 carries for 214 yards for a 4.3 avg
MIA- 44 carries for 127 yards for a 2.9 avg
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:21 AM   #30
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Ingram can not do what Ivory can do between the tackles, and Ivory can not do what Thomas does in open space... and because Ingram is a square peg they are trying to drive into a round hole we are still not sure exactly what he can do in the NFL... its not his fault. Then there is the Cadet who dresses and has yet to touch the ball...

Piss poor use of the tools at hand.
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