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FinSaint 11-02-2012 11:57 AM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 453778)
Where are you getting Harpers cap hit, and Still owed guaranteed money?


spotrac.com

Roman Harper Contract, Salaries, and Transactions

They list Harper's contract - which he signed last offseason - including $16M in guaranteed money from which the Saints have only paid him $10M at the end of this year.

Naturally, he has been paid more in real life, since the prorated signing bonus was already paid in full to him, so he has been paid $3.5M more, but I do recall them still having to count for that in salary cap penalties if he is cut now.

I could be wrong.

TheOak 11-02-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 453824)
Welll, thank you mr Commissioner!:p

Commissioner? Do I have to move this thread to smack talk? That one word just summarizes to many derogatory thoughts.:brood:

Danno 11-02-2012 02:21 PM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 453863)
Commissioner? Do I have to move this thread to smack talk? That one word just summarizes to many derogatory thoughts.:brood:

Sorry, it wasn't meant to be an insult, but this year I can see why someone would think that.

jeanpierre 11-03-2012 11:59 PM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
So is Hicks is the starter at the Nose Guard?!?

When do we get to see the younger ends take over more playing time??

Nemesis 11-04-2012 12:25 AM

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I like pie

jeanpierre 11-04-2012 08:20 AM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
I wonder if there's an anti-bounty on the defensive player that accidentally takes out Vick!!!

We may actually get some turnovers this week...

jeanpierre 11-04-2012 09:53 PM

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Have the announced which players are on the inactive list for the MNF Game?

DrewDat 11-05-2012 12:32 AM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 451528)
DL. We have had sucky DBs in the past and covered it up with a good pass rush.

What?? So Sharper Porter And Greer Was Sucky DBs???? NO BUENO

mike27 11-05-2012 01:09 AM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
Anytime the offense gives the ball away most of the time, three and out, or perhaps after a first down or two, and the defense is on the field most of the time, with the team set up as it is, especially against a good team, or quarterback, we're going to get murdered.

When the offense starts performing, you'll see the defense do better also. No defense will be able to compete with this situation, unless they spent all their cap on the D, in which case the offense is likely to be pretty bad. The money is in the "O" at NO, like it or not.

SaintsBro 11-05-2012 07:11 AM

Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?
 
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Originally Posted by mike27 (Post 454265)
Anytime the offense gives the ball away most of the time, three and out, or perhaps after a first down or two, and the defense is on the field most of the time, with the team set up as it is, especially against a good team, or quarterback, we're going to get murdered.

When the offense starts performing, you'll see the defense do better also. No defense will be able to compete with this situation, unless they spent all their cap on the D, in which case the offense is likely to be pretty bad. The money is in the "O" at NO, like it or not.

True, so true. If even just a couple more of those 3 and outs in each game had been offensive drives that lasted a few plays-- and got a few first downs (not even necessarily scores) and changed field position, took time off the clock etc -- then this defense would not look NEARLY so terribly bad as it is, I guarantee you that. The D would be ranked in the middle or top of the back of the pack, and not dead last, and it would not look nearly so hopeless and anemic as it does now. And the team's record would be different, no question about it.


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