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Lack of Talent on Defensive Line 24 39.34%
Lack of Talent at Cornerback 5 8.20%
Lack of Talent at Safety 3 4.92%
Scheme, still need time to learn 16 26.23%
Commitment to 1st Rounders, FA Contracts, Need Young Guns to Play 3 4.92%
Lack of Running Game, Puts Defense on Field to Much 10 16.39%
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Why Is the Defense So Bad?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by DrewDat What?? So Sharper Porter And Greer Was Sucky DBs???? NO BUENO 2009 they all looked good because of Sharper... after that, yes, all sucky....

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Old 11-05-2012, 08:10 AM   #111
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

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What?? So Sharper Porter And Greer Was Sucky DBs???? NO BUENO
2009 they all looked good because of Sharper... after that, yes, all sucky.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:42 AM   #112
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This is definitely a year and a stat that should have an asterisk next to it.

Most horrible defense in history New Orleans Saints * All credit goes to Roger Goodell
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:48 AM   #113
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

The top concern should be OLB, perhaps even before the defensive line concerns.

A few weeks ago, I had the experience of watching a Vikings game (since many family members are Vikes fan) and then a Saints game and I will tell you that the difference in having a good OLB like Greenway on the field and not having one is visually very telling. Without decent OLB play you'll get gashed on the perimeters.
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

Shut down big play Safety...

Case: Sharper in 2009

This is a passing league now... LBs cant help much with WR...
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

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The top concern should be OLB, perhaps even before the defensive line concerns.

A few weeks ago, I had the experience of watching a Vikings game (since many family members are Vikes fan) and then a Saints game and I will tell you that the difference in having a good OLB like Greenway on the field and not having one is visually very telling. Without decent OLB play you'll get gashed on the perimeters.
And that is exactly where we're getting gashed.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:10 PM   #116
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

Patrick Robinson that's what you're supposed to do as a first round pick...
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:42 PM   #117
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Shady McCoy had at or near 100 RuYd at the half; he finished with 119 RuYd...

That's something...
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:16 AM   #118
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

The Saints are gonna need loooonnnggg sustained drives that use the running game in a max effort because...

...if any team has been studying, prepping, and dedicating themselves to obliterating this defense, it is Atlanta...

We are gonna truly learn some things this week about the progress of the Saints defense and its future under Spagnuolo...
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:47 AM   #119
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

Well...

it looks like the running game minimized the time of exposure of the defense on the field...

White looks like he may develop before the end of his first season - it's about time we get a DB to do that...

And they definitely rolled personnel over to minimize certain players in coverage...

And now Sedrick has started his new contract world tour - I'd still let his lazy @$$ geaux in the offseason - getting younger, hungrier defensive linemen...

We still gave up a ton of yards in the passing game despite some great plays by the backs in the end zone on late drives...

better, but we still have a lack of personnel...

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Old 11-15-2012, 03:57 PM   #120
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Re: Why Is the Defense So Bad?

I looked up the marketable difference between sprags defensive overall rating and then the difference over the last 3 games.

I dont think anyone wants to sell that the defense is , or will be, anything better than a top #15-20 overall, but the improvements are starting to show, and I say that because they are not only in 1 category, but in many areas over 3 games.

I was actually shocked to see so many improvements. What NO has always wanted is a top #10-15 defense that was stable and consistent. Not a top #1-15 that could suddenly drop to #32 for a game, like we saw in SF or Seattle.

Time of possession remains the #1 problem in my view,because its our offenses only real weakness. But sundays game showed the offense bears some small responsibility for this with so many punts.

anyway, I thought some might like to see Sprags defense is improving over 3 games.

NFL Team Opp Yards per Point
#12
#5 over last 3 games


NFL Team Opponent Points per Game
#29
#21 over last 3 games


NFL Team Opponent Points per Play
#27
#13 over last 3 games

NFL Team Opponent Touchdowns per Game
#29
#20 over last 3 games

NFL Team Opponent Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only)
#16
#9 over last 3 games

NFL Team Opponent Offensive Touchdowns per Game
#30
#23 over last 3 games


NFL Team Opponent Defensive Touchdowns per Game
#14
#12 over last 3 games

NFL Team Rushing Attempts per Game
#32
#8 over last 3 games

NFL Team Pass Attempts per Game #3
Incompletions per Game
#28
#16 over last 3 games

NFL Team QB Sacked per Game
#8
#5 over last 3 games

NFL Team Passing First Downs per Game (higher better)
#2
#23 over last 3 games

Time to make the DOMENuts !!!!
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