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AlaskaSaints 10-25-2012 10:55 PM

Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Joe Vitt: Chris Ivory 'ain't going nowhere' but Saints - NFL.com

AlaskaSaints 10-25-2012 11:02 PM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
4 Fumbles in 1009 yards of rushing.
2 were lost.
Average YPC - 5.0

F.Y.I.

Alaska

QBREES9 10-25-2012 11:18 PM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
He hasn't been activated for any of the team's six games.

Play him !

saintfan 10-26-2012 12:29 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Maybe they've been holding him out just to make him angry so that when they do activate him he'll be ready to kill somebody.

Oh crap, i said "kill". Please, nobody tell Roger...

pherein 10-26-2012 12:47 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Interesting..Ingram better be nervous or he's stupid. They show case Ivory and he bust some heads for his usually 5.4 yards a carry. Ingram will see little playing time, and could lose his 3rd spot.

Vrillon82 10-26-2012 01:33 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Ingram at times has looked about as bad as Legarret Blount.

Jamessr 10-26-2012 06:45 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Either committ to ivory of tarde him for someone usefull. It doesn't make sense to have all these running backs and a serious lack of talent on defense.

saintsfan1976 10-26-2012 08:04 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 452099)
Either committ to ivory of tarde him for someone usefull. It doesn't make sense to have all these running backs and a serious lack of talent on defense.

The team has committed to Drew Brees.

The commitment to RB's goes like this;
PT
Sproles
Ingram
Ivory/Cadet

Maybe there's a reason Ivory isn't playing. :dunce: he dumb??

Jamessr 10-26-2012 08:06 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Then trade him. I'm sure somebody outhere can use him and has something to offer

saintsfan1976 10-26-2012 08:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 452117)
Then trade him. I'm sure somebody outhere can use him and has something to offer

So what does a seldom used, oft injured RB get you on the open market these days?

We already have enough of those at LB...

TheOak 10-26-2012 08:43 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
I honestly do not think any of the coaches up to last week had the balls to make a change or put something on the field that wasn't there week 1..

There are plenty of arguments about Ivory.... Not a one for Cadet not seeing the ball..

Lack of testicular fortitude.

westbankdaze 10-26-2012 08:44 AM

BRING BACK THE TUSK!

saintsfan1976 10-26-2012 09:18 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 452126)
I honestly do not think any of the coaches up to last week had the balls to make a change or put something on the field that wasn't there week 1..

There are plenty of arguments about Ivory.... Not a one for Cadet not seeing the ball..

Lack of testicular fortitude.

I could agree with that. Go with what you know - I get it.

WhoDat!656 10-26-2012 11:17 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Chris Ivory's status with New Orleans Saints gaining attention

mutineer10 10-26-2012 12:35 PM

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Quote:

"Chris Ivory ain't goin' nowhere"
You can say that again ...

Tobias-Reiper 10-26-2012 12:58 PM

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"He ain't going nowhere"
Don't you get it? It's a double negative, you fools ! :)

Rugby Saint II 10-26-2012 01:26 PM

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Yeah, he's going nowhere in a hurry.:wink:

Danno 10-26-2012 02:29 PM

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Quote:

Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
As is the case with all of our RB's.

darksoul35 10-26-2012 02:46 PM

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They need to give Ingram a real chance.Everybody knows as soon as he gets in the game the play is H.B. iso up the middle.He is going to be our future in the run game.Dont bail on him that quick.

Rugby Saint II 10-26-2012 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 452212)
As is the case with all of our RB's.

Post of the day! :cool:

TheOak 10-26-2012 07:32 PM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
This is the only part of that article that really bothers me.

"the team isn’t communicating their thoughts to him."

Utah_Saint 10-26-2012 08:06 PM

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Running backs get hurt often. I'm sure the Saints coaching staff feels better knowing that if someone does get hurt, they've got one of the best back ups in the league.

Ashley 10-26-2012 10:58 PM

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Then run him JOE!

Rell&Gold 10-26-2012 11:53 PM

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STOP!! with the TRADE Talk! we wont get anything for a UDF RB! who hasnt played in a regular season game since last year Unless we REALLY need a defensive player the market for rb's are so LOW it's crazy Marshawn Lynch highest trade offer was a 4th RD pick rb's come a dime a dozen well at least that's what the League thinks and plus we need him more than he needs us

TheEnigma 10-27-2012 01:22 AM

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This is common for coaches to say. Just like when Tom Coughlin said they weren't trading Shockey.

AlaskaSaints 10-27-2012 03:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheEnigma (Post 452311)
This is common for coaches to say. Just like when Tom Coughlin said they weren't trading Shockey.

Put your money where your research is... LOL

Alaska

mutineer10 10-27-2012 04:39 AM

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The thing is, Ivory is ideally a short-yardage & goal-line RB, and we almost always PASS in those situations. Whether this is contrary to tradition (or common sense) is inconsequential, it's simply what the Saints do.

Ideally, you'd think we'd amass a stable of 3rd-down backs (Sproles, Thomas) because we have no history of "pounding" the ball, and show no interest in developing such a history. What do we need a short-yardage RB for???

AllSaints 10-27-2012 05:05 AM

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IVORY IVORY IVORY !!!!!!!! PLAY HIM VITT LET INGRAM SIT THE BENCH !!!

Danno 10-27-2012 08:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 452307)
STOP!! with the TRADE Talk! we wont get anything for a UDF RB! who hasnt played in a regular season game since last year Unless we REALLY need a defensive player the market for rb's are so LOW it's crazy Marshawn Lynch highest trade offer was a 4th RD pick rb's come a dime a dozen well at least that's what the League thinks and plus we need him more than he needs us

Nailed it. We'd be lucky, very lucky to get a 5th or 6th round pick for Ivory.

1-Hasn't played all year
2-Has a reputation for fumbling
3-Coming off a serious foot injury
4-Poor in pass protection
5-Doesn't play special teams
6-Has a reputation for being made of glass

Why would anyone give us a decent player or a decent pick for this guy? I'd rather keep him for injury insurance because our other RB's haven't proven to be very durable either. When PT and/or Ingram get hurt later this season, we'll be glad we have Ivory to fall back on.

TheOak 10-27-2012 10:11 AM

He is making $540k a year.


The reason no one would trade for him you ask? ... He is a RFA in 9 weeks.

Why would any team give up anything of value for him right now?

Joker 10-27-2012 11:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by x626xBlack (Post 452359)
He is making $540k a year.


The reason no one would trade for him you ask? ... He is a RFA in 9 weeks.

Why would any team give up anything of value for him right now?

Could it be their trying to low ball him for next year, if he has a great year it would cost the Saints more than if they don't play him at all. Sounds stupid but they know their going to have to spend some money on the defense this coming off season.
I would like to see Ingram traded for a 2nd round pick next year
New Orleans Saints - Salaries by Year

NuNu318 10-27-2012 11:42 AM

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Off topic but this tweet from Ivory had me dyin

@ivory_29
Came back to my room after meetings to a foul smell and it was the cleaning lady ****ting in my bathroom smh terrible..


Just....wow....they should let him get some touches just for having to go thru that...

AlaskaSaints 10-27-2012 02:37 PM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Ivory BLOWS UP linebackers with a ball in his hand and he can't block?

I wouldn't want to be the one to tell him that.

Alaska

halloween 65 10-27-2012 09:53 PM

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I would like to see Ivory showcased much more than Ingram, but I also could see them in the backfield together.

TheOak 10-28-2012 04:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joker (Post 452372)
Could it be their trying to low ball him for next year, if he has a great year it would cost the Saints more than if they don't play him at all. Sounds stupid but they know their going to have to spend some money on the defense this coming off season.
I would like to see Ingram traded for a 2nd round pick next year
New Orleans Saints - Salaries by Year

Keep in mind those are just salaries... Not Cap hits... Salary is fairly moot.

That's a strategy when you have 4 healthy RB's that are all playing well and you are winning. Not when you are losing and you dont have all of your coaches. There has been no one with any stroke available to make that call so far this year.

Boutte 10-28-2012 11:23 AM

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Been looking at a lot of old games lately. I see a lot of high light worthy plays from Ivory. Broken tacles, long runs and just generally exciting play. Ingram? Nada.

Ivory has the ability to change games. What's the point of having him tie up a roster spot if you're not going to use him?

Cruize 10-28-2012 11:29 AM

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Five HB's on the roster. Last in the NFL in rushing attempts and yards.

Danno 10-28-2012 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 452543)
Five HB's on the roster. Last in the NFL in rushing attempts and yards.

Well to be honest Cadet made the roster because of special teams combined with the fact that our number 4 RB is made of glass and can't pass protect.

I view Cadet as Sproles back-up, with Ingram being PT's back-up.

Ivory, despite his fumbling, no pass protecting, often injured, no special team playing self, has just too much upside to cut.

And the fact that we have 5 capable RB's and are still last in rushing should be a gigantic clue that RB ain't the problem.

TheOak 10-29-2012 06:15 AM

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The problem is o-line and utilization (coaching).

Mardigras9 10-29-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Joe Vitt: "Chris Ivory aint goin' nowhere"
 
Can't help but think that Ivory would be more productive running through the same holes as Ingram tries to. The schemes they are using for Ingram are NOT EFFECTIVE, time to at least try something different with him.


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