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70saintsfan 10-28-2012 11:12 PM

Drew Brees is NO Leader !
 
First off, I love Drew, but he has ZERO Leadership! No fire, sits on the bench reading, blank stare on the sidelines as Denver is whipping us. Watch, Manning, over talking to the offence, keeping them pumped and focussed.

This was hard to watch tonight, all the way around. Doesen't get any worse than this.

Nemesis 10-28-2012 11:13 PM

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He's good enough to get the Saints rings, and good enough for the Hall of Fame. Im done here.

70saintsfan 10-28-2012 11:21 PM

Re: Drew Brees is NO Leader !
 
Ring, not Rings. Brady has Rings. Big Ben has Rings. Brees has a Ring. He put's up awesome numbers, but he can't lead. I think the team thought he could and help fill the Payton void, but he can't.

AlaskaSaints 10-28-2012 11:36 PM

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Nothing against Drew. This is just the curse associated with "Payin' da man". It's as simple as that. You must do time in purgatory once you make that decision.

Alaska

niteadept 10-28-2012 11:50 PM

Sorry SP is not there! Thank Goodell for that one:/ I still love Drew n my Saints!! Defense and All!! I will not give up til that fat lady singssssss!!! Bandwagon fans can jump NOW!!!

saintsfan1313 10-28-2012 11:52 PM

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You've got to be joking.....fairweather fan at its best

OldMaid 10-28-2012 11:54 PM

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Brees can lead and does.
All of these guys are there with the talent. This team is not in rebuilding years.
Brees is no head coach.
Brees can lead , but he is not a head coach. Brees was coached and by the best, Sean Payton.
I did not agree with some here who said, Sean Payton, being gone, would make a big difference. Some of us believed that with players and coaching staff of talent he put in place, they could pull together.
No, they cannot.
There is no chief. No boss.
Sean Payton is the link that oiled the machine.
I wonder what he sued to say, tell them in the locker room when the Saints were down at half-time and they would come back and play some football.
You when the boss is gone and some people might just take that one extra soda break. Everybody is a bit more relaxed.
Same thing here with the Saints. The boss is not there.
But then, I have never been on a job when the boss is not there and no one works. The Saints are not working. Alos, I ahve never been on a job with people making that kind of money for doing nothing.

Danno 10-28-2012 11:54 PM

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Worst thread ever.

saintsfan403 10-29-2012 12:00 AM

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this is embarrassing, awful thread from a ****ty fan. get bent.

aintasinner 10-29-2012 12:02 AM

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Drew is def a leader! He's not sitting on sidelines with a blank stare. He studies the previous series and uses what he sees when he goes out for next series. He is not the head coach. The media and fans decided to elevate him as a fill in for Payton. Drew never said he could or would replace Payton. He gets the team fired up with his before the game chants and is always ready to accept blame when he deserves it. He never points a finger or publicly criticizes his team mates. Doesn't pout; always sets a good example by his work ethic. There are a lot of factors going into this rough time for the Saints. It's easy to be critical and tough to be supportive when the team is struggling. I agree with the sentiment that the people who want to jump off the bandwagon should do so now and let the rest of us offer our guys the support they deserve.

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:03 AM

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Are you kidding Me? Worst thread ever? I'm no fan? Get real. I have been a Fan since 1970! Be honest, Drew is all about numbers, keep the streak alive. You fellow fans are fools if you think he is a leader. how does he lead? With the high school chant before the game? Do you see him in Players faces? Pumping the Offence up on the Sideline? Stop it. Awesome player, ZERO as a leader.

Ashley 10-29-2012 12:05 AM

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I am not even going to comment on this one

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:07 AM

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Bandwagon? I have a Saints Tattoo Longer than most of you have been Alive! If they don't win another Game this year I will still watch them. I don't like to say it, but Drew is no Leader! At all.Manning made him look like a high school QB. That is the way it is.

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:09 AM

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your a clown. Take the Saints colored sunglasses off. The record speaks for itself. So does Tonight.

Ava's Daddy 10-29-2012 12:09 AM

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Um.. Yeah... Next post... Ur an idiot

niteadept 10-29-2012 12:11 AM

Saints of the 70's never won a Superbowl! Still believe n I've been a fan of twenty plus.... Don't hate us younger fans....

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:19 AM

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No, I don't. And yes, the Saint's of the 70s were worse. Ava's Daddy is a Moron. It's just the truth. This whole Team has no leadership, but I really thought Drew would step up. But he is a role player, not a leader.

saintsfan403 10-29-2012 12:19 AM

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you're a clown*, clown.
make 9 more posts about how much of a fan you are, i don't quite believe you...

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:22 AM

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Yeah, with your approval I will feel so much better! What a loser! Go back to rooting for the Falcons! Sorry you can't handle the truth!

halloween 65 10-29-2012 12:23 AM

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Brees is much better when Payton is there, Payton gone good but not great. It the chemisstry they have, they work for each other no way to explain it, it's just how it is.

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:23 AM

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Ava's Daddy - I am your Daddy! Deal with it !

BOLTS4LIFE 10-29-2012 12:26 AM

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Yeah he is! Right now, the Saints are going through LOTS of changes.

You NEVER unlearn something. Drew will bring it back soon enough.

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 12:31 AM

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This Man is the highest paid Player in Football!!! Do you not get that? Act like it! He should WILL this team to win! At least be Compettitive. 7 Points ?

Nemesis 10-29-2012 12:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452699)
Ring, not Rings. Brady has Rings. Big Ben has Rings. Brees has a Ring. He put's up awesome numbers, but he can't lead. I think the team thought he could and help fill the Payton void, but he can't.

Woah ....slow your roll. I was born near, and now again live near Boston. There's nothing you can tell me about Brady. I intentionally said RINGS, because Brees is fully capable of delivering another one or two titles with only some D support. Brees is a top 3 QB. Brees has a berth in the Hall. It's just that simple. I didnt say top 10 or even 5. Find us better. You're the GM. Find us a better QB and leader. Make a deal.

I cant understand some ungrateful bastard complaining about only one ring. We're the Saints. Deal with it. I've sat through a 1-15 season in the Dome. What about you?

Pathetic D= sorry running game. I thought I'd schooled someone on this matter a couple weeks ago.. This team is all on Brees . Don't wear your soldier rags and wanna represent when we do get a decent D and winning record next season. I wear my Saints hard hat at work every day,while living near Boston. No shame to my game.

Brees will again lead the Saints to the promised land.

saintsfan403 10-29-2012 12:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452754)
Yeah, with your approval I will feel so much better! What a loser! Go back to rooting for the Falcons! Sorry you can't handle the truth!

sorry you can't ****ing think.
saying brees only cares about numbers and isn't a leader is the most retarded argument i've ever heard...
remember how brees held work outs during the lock out? i'm 100% that he wasn't thinking 'i can break dan marino and johnny unitas' record if i do this'. that's leadership...and yeah, it sucked that he held out during the offseason, but that was on both sides. brees should have been paid right away, but it isn't that black and white. there are these guys called agents who have the sole job of making sure elite players (like brees) get as much money as they can, which leads to lengthy negotiations. it's still a business after all.
i see you also mention roethlisberger in defence of your awful, awful post. team leaders don't get charged multiple times with sexual assault..i don't care how many rings you have, if your definition of 'leadership' is having off season issues that include rape, you and i have contrasting opinions on leadership.

NinthWardJay 10-29-2012 12:52 AM

Lmao at this thread

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 01:12 AM

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I know all of you are true Saints Fans. I have neen one for over 40 years. All I am saying is Brees is not Leader. He has never displayed those qualities. I don't like Big Ben's Moral fiber, I just said the guts a leader, like Brady, and Drew is not. It is very obvious. I was Jealous of Peyton tonight. Drew isn't half the quarterback that he is. It sucks to say that, but that is the way it is.

Nemesis 10-29-2012 01:20 AM

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Again, find us a better QB and leader. Make it happen bro.

70saintsfan 10-29-2012 01:26 AM

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I hear you, I don't want a better Quarterback, I just wan't brees to fire this Team up During a game, instead of Pre - Game. Show some Fire!

Rell&Gold 10-29-2012 01:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452740)
Bandwagon? I have a Saints Tattoo Longer than most of you have been Alive! If they don't win another Game this year I will still watch them. I don't like to say it, but Drew is no Leader! At all.Manning made him look like a high school QB. That is the way it is.

Drew didnt play against Peyton he played against their defense and our defense makes the worse look great i.e. (Josh Freeman) so WE should have known what Peyton was going to do

Rell&Gold 10-29-2012 01:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452760)
This Man is the highest paid Player in Football!!! Do you not get that? Act like it! He should WILL this team to win! At least be Compettitive. 7 Points ?

Can he control dropped passes? Can he control constant pressure? Can he control piss poor play calling?

Rell&Gold 10-29-2012 01:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452771)
I know all of you are true Saints Fans. I have neen one for over 40 years. All I am saying is Brees is not Leader. He has never displayed those qualities. I don't like Big Ben's Moral fiber, I just said the guts a leader, like Brady, and Drew is not. It is very obvious. I was Jealous of Peyton tonight. Drew isn't half the quarterback that he is. It sucks to say that, but that is the way it is.

were you saying this during the superbowl?

saintsfan1313 10-29-2012 02:11 AM

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I think what he means (hopefully) is that Drew isnt a MOTIVATOR....which i dont really agree with either. I dont think he is an in your face as some QB's but as for saying he isnt a leader, there is no justification behind that. He leads by example. He organized and paid for offseason OTAs during lockout. That is leadership. Just because he doesnt try to fire up the guys a la Ray Lewis, you cant say he "isnt a leader"

davegriff 10-29-2012 05:50 AM

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Dumbest post ever!!
What next put him on Defense?

He can't do it all, I guess he surrendered 34 points as well.

subguy 10-29-2012 06:01 AM

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:couch::popcorn:

SaintsBro 10-29-2012 07:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452741)
your a clown. Take the Saints colored sunglasses off. The record speaks for itself. So does Tonight.

Drew is 94-66 career as a starting QB. Not good enough for you? That's the #20 winningest QB of all motherfreaking time. The record speaks for itself, clown. You don't like it, go back to the ostrich races. Worst post by a Saints fan since Al Hirt left the microphone on.

Saint_LB 10-29-2012 07:14 AM

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Maybe someone should get him a Pepsi. He will lead a boy band for one of those!

TheOak 10-29-2012 07:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 70saintsfan (Post 452760)
This Man is the highest paid Player in Football!!! Do you not get that? Act like it! He should WILL this team to win! At least be Compettitive. 7 Points ?

Ill bite. Ive read all of your posts and since this is not the smack talk section I will answer informatively.

Leadership:

1. The development of Jimmy Graham. If you doubt Drew's leadership talk to Jimmy. Really GO TALK TO JIMMY.
2. Brought in Sproles. Sproles is a seasoned veteran, if Drew was not a leader and Sproles didn't see that, Darren would be on another team. Sproles is not a WR brought in to pad Drews stats.
3. Brought the entire team together during the lockout for practice. Drew did this before it was the chic thing to do.
4. Has voiced his dissatisfaction over what Goodell has done to fellow players... Remember Drew does not have a dog in this show... He could sit back and say nothing. He doesnt... he stands up for his team.
5. The man plays hurt... Quite often.. That is not a me first mentality.
6. Drew spends more time with a ball in his hand before and after practice than any other player in the league. Maybe Payton Manning would tie in this.
7. The entire team, every QB in the league, coaches, all respect and recognize his leadership qualities... The only people who have issue with Drew as a person are people who think he "makes too much".
8. Drew has consistently credited someone else or the team for all of his records.


You have a distorted view of leadership, QB responsibility, and reality in general. "Will them to win"... WTF?

QB is the toughest position in the league to play... You want Drew to coach the o-line? Defensive game plan? Perhaps help design the Saintsations uniforms?

I am not replying because I think this is debatable by any measure. I just think you are blind to reality and need a little light shed on the reality of the situation.

Jamessr 10-29-2012 07:50 AM

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It's funny how folks thought when Joe Vitt came back we'd win because he yells at people... Now folks say Drew isn't a leader because he's not yelling at people and chewing them out on the side lines. How stupid does that sound? You don't see him the entire time on the sideline, you're also not in the lockroom therefore you don't know what you're talking about. This was a horrible game by the entire team. Defense played against a very good team and John fox just had our number...


Drew is the best player we have... Best not to question his leadership now after we've made him the highest paid player. That would also mean we have poor management too. Are you ready to go there)

SloMotion 10-29-2012 08:23 AM

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:lol: ... wow! ... thought for a minute I accidently logged onto & registered at the "other" Saints site you guys refer too, :lol:.

I'm just gonna' assume the "NO" in "Drew Brees is NO leader !" is the abbreviation for "New Orleans" and interpret the thread title as, "Drew Brees is New Orleans' leader !", because to call into question the leadership of arguably one of the best QBs of all time is to suggest that one does not understand the principles or traits required to be a leader.

There's a lot of QBs out there that aren't leaders ... Drew Brees is not one of them.


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