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Old 10-28-2012, 10:44 PM   #1
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Whose job is it to scout D personnel?

Whose job is it in the Saints front office to scout and select personnel on D via draft, free agency and trades?
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I believe its a chimpanzee named "CoCo" who throws her feces at a draft chart, and that is who we pick.
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The Saints are years away from being competitive.

Brees will be retired by the time we get to the SB again.
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Whose job is it in the Saints front office to scout and select personnel on D via draft, free agency and trades?
I think its Steve Urkel.
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Old 10-29-2012, 12:57 AM   #5
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Mickey LOOMIS is the GM. It is HIS job to scout talent and build the roster.

MR. LOOMIS, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING, CAP?
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Your GM is supposed to be your football guru

Loomis is the GM. In your model NFL front office, your GM is your football player personnel guru who knows how to build a roster.

If the Saints roster sucks on D (and it does suck) that means that the FO is not getting the job done. That means LOOMIS is not getting the job done.

People say "well Loomis is not a football guy, he's just an accountant". Well, Benson needs to hire a football guy to be GM. Loomis is in the wrong job.
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Unfortunately, in this era of the NFL it is very hard for a GM to go out and get what he wants. With the salary cap you have to prioritize, and while defense is clearly the top priority at this point, you can't let your best players on offense simply walk away. We had to re-sign Drew and Colston, and signed Grubbs to replace Nicks. And the Saints also have to keep their eyes toward the future when Jimmy Graham is going to command a lot of money. That made it very hard to get much defensive help, but I thought they made a couple good pickups with Lofton, Hawthorne and Bunkley. It just hasn't worked out. I have no idea what can be done with this defense.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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i don't know who it is but he/she did a good job with Hicks!
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Scouting on D is way too inconsistent

We found hicks who could turn out to be the "jimmy Graham" of the defense

Then you have patrick robinson, why we picked him in the first round just proves our stupidity, what a waste of a pick for a guy thats getting close to being like jason david

I hate spags scheme, we can't stop the run, we can't stop the pass, players are constantly out of position, i thought it was getting better every week but last night was a major set back
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Re: Whose job is it to scout D personnel?

If it was Mickey Loomis who was really the one picking all the players all by himself, without input from the coaches, in a vacuum, then the Haslett teams would have been better than they were, and/or the Super Bowl and 13-3 teams would have been more average/mediocre like the 8-8 Haslett teams. If Loomis was really that bad, if he were really so incompetent, then the current Saints under both Haslett and Payton would be worse than their record during Randy Mueller era.

The way it REALLY works is that Sean Payton, Steve Spagnuolo, Mickey Loomis and the coaching and scouting staff all sit around with lists of names on pieces of paper, and discuss them and arrive at consensus on what they want. The scouting on D is way too inconsistent, but look who is the head coach, look at his background, where do you think his mind is at most of the time, in these scouting meetings? It's a real weakness the team has, but it's not Loomis.

Mickey Loomis is responsible for all football operations, coaching, player personnel and scouting, salary cap management, contract negotiations, athletic training, equipment, video and communications. He has over 25 years in the NFL so to say he is not a "football guy" is pretty absurd.

No matter how much people want it, we will never see a Saints team with this offense and a dominant Dome Patrol style defense, AT THE SAME TIME. It just won't happen.
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